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CH_2021-09-27_BT_01_Suruhanu,Suruhana

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Project title: NSF Grant Developing CHamoru Language Infrastructure

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Goggue yan CHachalani Mo'na i Fino'-ta

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Interviewer: Fu'una Sanz

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Interviewer: Fu'una Sanz

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giya [at] - Kumision Fino' CHamoru, CHamoru Language Comission

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September 27, 2021

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3:10pm

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Recording format: WAV format 96 kbps at 24 bit depth

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Topic is on suruhånu yan suruhåna

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Maolek

good

Good

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kay, tutuhon? Manlisto hao- listo hao?

kay

tutuhon

begin

Manlisto

man

PL

listo

ready

hao--

PRO[2S]

listo

ready

hao

PRO[2S]

kay, begin? You are ready?

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Okay

okay

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ah

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okay

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(chumåchalek)

(laughing)

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Dispensa

pardon.me

I apologize

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kay, bai bai entrodusen maisa ha' yu' ta'lo

kay

bai

IRR.AGR[1S]

bai

IRR.AGR[1S]

entrodusen

introduce

maisa

self

ha'

just

yu'

PRO[1S]

ta'lo

again

kay, I will introduce myself again

1:07

Guåhu si Fu'una Sanz, ma'estran CHamoru yu' giya PC Lujan

Guåhu

PRO.EMP[1S]

si

UNM

Fu'una

Sanz

ma'estran

ma'estra

teacher

n

LNK

CHamoru

yu'

PRO[1S]

giya

LCL

PC Lujan

I am Fu'una Sanz, I am a CHamoru teacher at PC Lujan

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Pedro Camacho Lujan Elementary School in East Barrigada, Guam

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mm-mm

mm mm

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ah, bente siette åños yu' ya taotao Yo'ña yu'

ah

bente

twenty

siette

seven

åños

years

yu'

PRO[1S]

ya

and

taotao

person

Yo'ña

yu'

PRO[1S]

ah, I am 27 years old and I am from Yona

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mm-mm

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Familian Listo si nanå-hu

Familian

Familia

family

n

LNK

Listo

si

UNM

nanå-hu

nåna

mother

-hu

1S.POSS

My mother's family (name) is Listo

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yan familian Talo' i si tatå-hu ginen Sinahånña

yan

and

familian

familia

family

n

LNK

Talo'

i

DET.DEF

si

UNM

tatå-hu

tåta

father

-hu

1S.POSS

ginen

LCL

Sinahånña

and my father's is from the Talo' family in Sinajana

1:23

okay, ah yan hågu siñora, kao siña un entrodusen maisa hao?

okay

ah

yan

and

hågu

PRO.EMP[2S]

siñora

ma'am

kao

YNQ

siña

can

un entrodusen

un

AGR[2S]

entrodusen

introduce

maisa

self

hao

PRO[2S]

okay, and ah you, ma'am, can you introduce yourself

1:26

Guåhu si Bernadita Terlaje, lao ya-hu na bai ma'ågang Benit

Guåhu

guåhu

PRO.EMP[1S]

si

UNM

Bernadita

Terlaje

lao

but

ya-hu

ya-

like

-hu

1S.POSS

na

OBL

bai

IRR.AGR[1S]

ma'ågang

ma

PASS

ågang

call

Benit

I am Bernadita Terlaje bu I prefer they call me Bennet

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ya taotao Ma'ina yu'

ya

and

taotao

person

Ma'ina

yu'

PRO[1S]

and I am from Ma'ina

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Mafañågu hu' "and" mapoksai hu' Ma'ina

mafañågu

born

hu'

PRO[1S]

"and"

and

mapoksai

ma

PASS

poksai

raise

hu'

PRO[1S]

Ma'ina

I was born and raised in Ma'ina

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pes taotao Tamuneng hu' på'go

pes

pues

but

taotao

person

Tamuneng

Tamuning

hu'

PRO[1S]

på'go

now

but today I am from Tamuning

1:38

ya nu ahm, si nanå-hu Rihina

ya

and

nu

uh

ahm

um

si

UNM

nanå-hu

nåna

mother

-hu

1S.POSS

Rihina

Regina

and ahm, my mother is Regina

1:42

si tatå-hu Jesus

si

UNM

tatå-hu

tåta

father

-hu

1S.POSS

Jesus

my father is Jesus

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Rehina Måfnas Terlaje

Rehina

Regina

Måfnas

Terlaje

Regina Måfnas Terlaje

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Jesus Sålas Terlaje "both of them"

Jesus

Sålas

Terlaje

"both of them"

both of them

Jesus Salas Terlaje, both of them

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todu i dos nu suruhånu "and" suruhåna

todu i dos

todu

all

i

DET.DEF

dos

two

nu

uh

suruhånu

traditional.healer(m)

"and"

and

suruhåna

traditional.healer(f)

both of them were native healers

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[clearing throat]

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si nanå-hu

si

UNM

nanå-hu

nåna

mother

-hu

1S.POSS

(It was) my mother

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nu manå'amte

nu

COMP

manå'amte

man

ANTIP

å~

PROG

åmte

heal.with.medicine

who used to heal

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nu ayi åmot

nu

OBL

ayi

that

åmot

medicine

through medicine

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åmot pa i famagu'on

åmot

medicine

pa

para

for

i

DET.DEF

famagu'on

children

medicine for the children

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yan nu manlálasa'

yan

and

nu

OBL

manlálasa'

man

ANTIP

la~

PROG

lasa'

massage

and who used to massage

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anggen se'yon hao "or" håfa chetnot-mu manlálasa

anggen

if

se'yon

strained.back

hao

PRO[2S]

"or"

or

håfa

what

chetnot-mu

chetnot

injury

-mu

2S.POSS

manlálasa

man

AGR[PL]

la~

PROG

lasa

massage

if you had a strained back or whatever your injury was, she would do the massage

2:05

lao pinat famagu'on ha å'amte

lao

but

pinat

mostly

famagu'on

children

ha å'amte

ha

AGR[3S]

å~

PROG

åmte

treat.with.medicine

but she was treating mostly children

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si tatå-hu

si

UNM

tatå-hu

tåta

father

-hu

1S.POSS

My father

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"topical"

topical

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manpalalálai'i åmot anggen guaha chetnot

manpalalálai'i

man

ANTIP

la~

PROG

palai

rub(ointment).on/in

i

APPL

åmot

medicine

anggen

if

guaha

there.is

chetnot

injury

if there was an injury he used to apply topical medicine

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guiya ayu bidåda-ña

guiya

PRO.EMP[3S]

ayu

that

bidåda-ña

da~

PROG

bida

work

-ña

3S.POSS

that is what he did

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pus nu

pues nu

so.then

so then

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ayu ayu ha'

ayu

that

ayu

that

ha'

only

that that is all

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ayu mås nu bidan-ñiñiha i

ayu

that

mås

most

nu

OBL

bidan-ñiñiha

bida

work

-ñiha

3PL.POSS

~ñi

PROG

i

ehh

that was most of their work, ehh

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i pa u fanåmte

i

ehh

pa

para

IRR

u fanåmte

u fan

AGR.IRR[3PL]

åmte

heal

ehh, for them to heal

2:23

famagu'on si nanå-hu

famagu'on

chilren

si

UNM

nanå-hu

nåna

mother

-hu

1S.POSS

children, my mom

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"primarily" si nanå-hu

"primarily"

primarily

si

UNM

nanå-hu

nåna

mother

-hu

1S.POSS

primarily my mom

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mås nu ahm

mås

more

nu

uh

ahm

um

more who um

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mås nu ah manå'amte ki si tatå-hu

mås

more

nu

uh

ah

manå'amte

man

ANTIP

å~

PROG

åmte

heal

ki

than

si

UNM

tatå-hu

tåta

father

-hu

1S.POSS

who would ah do more healing than my father

2:32

håssan si tatå-hu na manåmte solo yi chetnot

håssan

rare

si

UNM

tatå-hu

tåta

father

-hu

1S.POSS

na

LNK

manåmte

man

ANTIP

åmte

medicine

solo

unless

yi

that

chetnot

wound

my father rarely did medicine unless it was an injury/sore

2:37

si nanå-hu

si

UNM

nanå-hu

nåna

mother

-hu

1S.POSS

my mother

2:38

nu ahm bula manmalálasa

nu

uh

ahm

um

bula

many

manmalálasa

man

AGR[PL]

ma

PASS

la~

PROG

lasa

massage

uh um many people were massaged by her

2:42

bula manmalálasa gi an aksidente hao, manlálasa

bula

many

manmalálasa

man

AGR[PL]

ma

PASS

la~

PROG

lasa

massage

gi

LCL

an

if

aksidente

accident

hao

PRO[2S]

manlálasa

man

AGR[PL]

la~

PROG

lasa

massage

many were massaged, when you were in an accident, they were massaged

2:45

anggen nu se'yon hao yi... kalan

anggen

if

nu

uh

se'yon

strained.back

hao

PRO[2S]

yi

eyi

that

kalan

like

if uh, you strain your back, that... like

2:51

håfa nu na minahetok

håfa

what

nu

uh

na

LNK

minahetok

<in>

PASS

mahetok

hard

which is tense

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ha ch-- ha lálasa hao para u na'suha iyo-mu nu "tension" an ah anggen nu

ha ch--

ha

AGR[3S]

(cho'cho'?)

(touch)

ha lálasa

ha

AGR[3S]

la~

PROG

lasa

massage

hao

PRO[2S]

para

for

u na'suha

u

AGR.IRR[3S]

na'

CAUS

suha

get.away

iyo-mu

iyo

possession

-mu

2S.POSS

nu

OBL

"tension"

tension

she massaged you to remove your tension

2:58

an ah anggen nu

an

if

ah

anggen

if

nu

uh

if ah if uh

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anggen ah

anggen

if

ah

if ah

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anggen un "sprain" hao, nai? Anggen nu appleng i addeng-mu

anggen

if

un "sprain"

un

AGR[2S]

"sprain"

sprain

hao

PRO[2S]

nai

y'know

anggen

if

nu

like

appleng

sprain

i

DET.DEF

addeng-mu

addeng

lower.leg

-mu

1S.POSS

If you sprained yourself, y'know? Like if [you] sprained your leg

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ah

3:09

ni lálasa hao på'go ni ayu para u para u

ni

that

lálasa

la~

PROG

lasa

massage

hao

PRO[2S]

på'go

now

ni

that

ayu

that

para

FUT

u

IRR.AGR[3S]

para

FUT

u

IRR.AGR[3S]

you were now massaged so that it would, would...

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ah

3:12

"primarily" nu i "muscle" ah

"primarily"

primarily

nu

OBL

i

DET.DEF

"muscle"

muscle

ah

primarily the muscle ah

3:15

ha na'--

ha

AGR[3S]

na'

CAUS

she

3:16

ha na'súsuha i "tension" gi "muscle" nai

ha na'súsuha

ha

AGR[3S]

na'

CAUS

su

PROG

suha

move.away

i

DET.DEF

"tension"

tension

gi

LCL

"muscle"

muscle

nai

y'know

she removes the muscle tension

3:19

pus ayu pus i nu kana' kada diha

pus

pues

so

ayu

that

pus

pues

so

i

ehh

nu

like

kana'

almost

kada

every

diha

day

so then that was, ehh like, almost every day

3:22

guaha taotao giya håmi man- manmåfatto ni pa u fanma'åmte

guaha

there.is

taotao

people

giya

LCL

håmi

PRO.EMP[1PL.EXCL]

man-

AGR[PL]

manmåfatto

man

AGR[PL]

ma

PASS

fåtto

come

ni

COMP

pa

para

IRR

u fanma'åmte

u fan

AGR.IRR[3PL]

ma

PASS

åmte

heal

there were people who ca-- came to us so that they could be healed

3:26

an famagu'on

an

when

famagu'on

children

when it was children

3:29

kana' kana'-- eyi i mås manmalångu nu ah eyi flema

kana'

almost

kana'

almost

eyi

ayi

that

i

DET.DEF

mås

most

manmalångu

man

AGR[PL]

malångu

sick

nu

OBL

ah

eyi

ayi

that

flema

phlegm

almost almost-- most of the sickness is with uh the phlegm

3:33

ni ti siña esta nu

ni

COMP

ti

NEG

siña

can

esta

already

nu

OBL

where they already tried to

3:35

nina'huyong ni i amot i mediku

nina'huyong

<in>

PASS

na'

make

huyong

go.out

ni

OBL

i

DET.DEF

amot

medicine

i

DET.DEF

mediku

doctor

remove it by medicine, (by) the doctor

3:38

ha nåna'yi åmot para u

ha nåna'yi

ha

AGR[3S]

nå~

PROG

nå'yi

put

åmot

medicine

para

for

u

IRR.AGR[3S]

she put medicine to

3:41

para u na'huyong i flema

para

for

u na'huyong

u

IRR.AGR[3S]

na'

make

huyong

come.out

i

DET.DEF

flema

phlegm

to make the phlegm come out

3:42

gi i patgon

gi

LCL

i

DET.DEF

patgon

child

from the child

3:45

pus bula na'fanhomlo' si nanå-hu bula na'fanhomlo'

pus

pues

so

bula

many

na'fanhomlo'

na'

CAUS

fan

IRR.AGR[3PL]

homlo'

well

si

UNM

nanå-hu

nåna

mother

-hu

1S.POSS

bula

much

na'fanhomlo'

na'

CAUS

fan

IRR.AGR[3S]

homlo'

well

so, many were healed, my mother healed many

3:48

"so"

so

3:49

Kao, kao guaha mañe'lu-mu?

Kao

YNQ

kao

YNQ

guaha

there.is

mañe'lu-mu

man

AGR[PL]

che'lu

sibling

-mu

2S.POSS

Do, do you have siblings?

3:51

Nu, unu na che'lu-hu, lao esta måtai, mañoñotne åmot

Nu

So

unu

one

na

LNK

che'lu-hu

sibling

-hu

1S.POSS

lao

but

esta

already

måtai

dead

mañoñotne

man

ANTIP

so~

PROG

sotne

cook

åmot

medicine

So, I had one sibling, but they passed already, they used to make(cook) the medicine

3:56

lao ah

lao

but

ah

but, ah

3:58

yan mañoñotne åmot nanå-hu "and" tatå-hu nai lao ma chulíli'i guatu ni hagon

yan

and

mañoñotne

man

AGR[PL]

so~

PROG

sotne

cook

åmot

medicine

nanå-hu

nåna

mother

-hu

1S.POSS

"and"

and

tatå-hu

tåta

father

-hu

1S.POSS

nai

y'know

lao

but

ma chulíli'i

ma

AGR[3PL]

li~

PROG

chuli'i

give.to.someone

guatu

there

ni

OBL

hagon

leaf

and my mom and my dad made medicine, they would bring the leaves to them

4:02

puru siha hågon nu

puru

entirely

siha

PL

hågon

leaf

nu

OBL

it was entirely leaves that

4:03

åmot na hågon ha sósotne

åmot

medicine

na

LNK

hågon

leaf

ha sósotne

ha

AGR[3S]

so~

PROG

sotne

cook

medicinal leaves that they(the sibling) used to prepare

4:06

pus unu na che'lu-hu nu mañó-- mañósotne eståba nai lao ha ti ah

pus

pues

so

unu

one

na

LNK

che'lu-hu

che'lu

sibling

-hu

1S.POSS

nu

LNK

mañó--

man

AGR[PL]

so~

PROG

mañósotne

man

AGR[PL]

so~

PROG

sotne

cook

eståba

used.to.be

nai

y'know

lao

but

ha

AGR[3S]

ti

NEG

ah

so that one sibling would make medicine and it used to, y'know, but they didn't, ah

4:12

ti ha chule' ah

ti

NEG

ha chule'

ha

AGR[3S]

chule'

get

ah

they(sibling) did not get, ah

4:13

månu ha' na guaha malago' åmot

månu

when

ha'

only

na

LNK

guaha

there.is

malago'

want

åmot

medicine

just when you wanted medicine

4:15

ya må ha-- må-- månu ha' na månao mañule' åmot

ya

and

må ha'--

månu

when

ha'

just

må--

månu

when

månu

when

ha'

just

na

LNK

månao

leave

mañule'

man

INDEF

chule'

get

åmot

medicine

and then wh-- when when they would go get medicine

4:20

ayu na mañóñotne

ayu

that

na

LNK

mañóñotne

man

INDEF

so~

PROG

sotne

cook

that's when they would make it

4:21

lao ti kada diha ha chocho'gue ayu

lao

but

ti

NEG

kada

each

diha

day

ha chocho'gue

ha

AGR[3S]

cho~

PROG

cho'gue

do

ayu

that

but they(sibling) would not do that every day

4:23

lao esta taigue ayu na che'lu

lao

but

esta

already

taigue

not.here

ayu

that

na

LNK

che'lu

sibling

but that sibling is no longer around

4:25

Oh lao lao dos ha' dos ha' hamyo

Oh

oh

lao

but

lao

but

dos

two

ha'

just

dos

two

ha'

just

hamyo

PRO.EMP[2PL]

Oh, but but there were just two, just two of you?

4:25

lao guiya ha' guiya ha' guiya ha' kåsi k-- guiya kåsi nu

lao

but

guiya

PRO.EMP[3S]

ha'

just

guiya

PRO.EMP[3S]

ha'

just

guiya

PRO.EMP[3S]

ha'

just

kåsi

may.have

k--

kåsi

may.have

guiya

PRO.EMP[3S]

kåsi

may.have

nu

OBL

but they just, they just, they just might have, m-- they might have

4:29

tumattiyi si nanå-hu

tumattiyi

<um>

AGR[nPL]

tattiyi

follow

si

UNM

nanå-hu

nåna

mother

-hu

1S.POSS

followed my mother('s profession)

4:30

O mås ki hågu?

O

oh

mås

more

ki

than

hågu

PRO.EMP[2S]

Oh, more than just you?

4:31

Ham ha-- mås, åhe', ti hami ni i pumalu, ti hami en tattiyi

Ham

PRO[1PL.EXCL]

ha--

--

mås

more

åhe'

no

ti

NEG

hami

PRO.EMP[1PL.EXCL]

ni

that

i

DET.DEF

pumalu

rest.of.us

ti

NEG

hami

PRO.EMP[1PL.EXCL]

en tattiyi

en

AGR[2PL]

tattiyi

follow

We just-- mostly no, the rest of us didn't, we didn't follow

4:36

ti ha na'-- ti ha na'--

ti

NEG

ha na'--

ha

AGR[3S]

na'

CAUS

ti

NEG

ha na'--

ha

AGR[3S]

na'

CAUS

she didn't make-- she didn't make--

4:38

ti ha na'saonao ham si nanå-hu "and" tatå-hu

ti

NEG

ha na'saonao

ha

AGR[3S]

na'

CAUS

saonao

join

ham

PRO[1PL.EXCL]

si

UNM

nanå-hu

nåna

mother

-hu

1S.POSS

"and"

and

tatå-hu

tåta

father

-hu

1S.POSS

she didn't make us join them, my mom and dad

4:41

nisita na un sendedicated

nisita

need

na

LNK

un sendedicated

un

AGR[2S]

sen

INTENS

"dedicated"

dedicated

you need to be very dedicated

4:44

ni ayu na klåsen

ni

that

ayu

that

na

LNK

klåsen

klåse

type

n

LNK

to that type of

4:46

cho'cho' nai nisita na un

cho'cho'

work

nai

y'know

nisita

need

na

LNK

un

AGR[2S]

work, y'know, you need

4:48

un gaige gi kurason-mu na para un cho'gue (a)yu kada diha sa'

un

AGR[2S]

gaige

there.is

gi

LCL

kurason-mu

kurason

heart

-mu

1S.POSS

na

LNK

para

for

un cho'gue

un

AGR[2S]

cho'gue

do

(a)yu

that

kada

every

diha

day

sa'

because

you need to have it in your heart to do that every day, because

4:52

ma angóngokko hao

ma angóngokku

ma

AGR[3PL]

ngo~

PROG

angokko

trust

hao

PRO[2S]

they are trusting you

4:54

"and also" nisita na un hongge

"and also"

and also

nisita

need

na

LNK

un hongge

un

AGR[2S]

hongge

believe

and also you need to believe

4:56

hågu un hongge, nai?

hågu

PRO.EMP[2S]

un hongge

un

AGR[2S]

hongge

believe

nai

y'know

it's you who must believe, y'know?

4:57

pus hami nai ni i ni i famagu'on nanå-hu "and" tatå-hu

pus

pues

so

hami

PRO.EMP[1PL.EXCL]

nai

y'know

ni

OBL

i

DET.DEF

ni

OBL

i

DET.DEF

famagu'on

children

nanå-hu

nåna

mother

-hu

1S.POSS

"and"

and

tatå-hu

tåta

father

-hu

1S.POSS

so it was us, you know, the, the children my mother and my father...

5:00

Kuånto put todu na famagu'on?

Kuånto

How.many

put

for

todu

all

na

LNK

famagu'on

children

How many children all together?

5:02

sais

six

5:03

sais

six

5:04

sais

six

5:05

pus nu hami ti ti ha ti ha ti ha fuetsa ham si nanå-hu "an" tatå-hu pa bain tatityi siha

pus

pues

so

nu

OBL

hami

PRO.EMP[1PL.EXCL]

ti

NEG

ti

NEG

ha

AGR[3S]

ti

NEG

ha

AGR[3S]

ti

NEG

ha fuetsa

ha

AGR[3S]

fuetsa

force

ham

PRO[1PL.EXCL]

si

UNM

nanå-hu

nåna

mother

-hu

1S.POSS

"an"

an

tatå-hu

tåta

father

-hu

1S.POSS

pa

para

IRR

bain

bai in

IRR.AGR[2PL]

tatityi

tattiyi

follow

siha

PRO[3PL]

so as for us, di-- they didn't, they didn't, they didn't force us, my mom and dad, to follow them

5:05

jbpt - Use of /ha/ here translates to they, I am not sure if this is singular occurence or a common one, or a natural merging of he/she/it combined with they/them over time

5:12

"yeah"

yeah

5:13

ti um

ti

NEG

um

it's not, um

5:14

ha li'e' na ti man--

ha li'e'

ha

AGR[3S]

li'e'

see

na

LNK

ti

NEG

man--

man

AGR[PL]

they saw that we were not

5:16

ti manentresao hamyo?

ti

NEG

manentresao

man

AGR[PL]

entresao

interested

hamyo

PRO.EMP[2PL]

you were not interested?

5:16

ti mangos-- ah

ti

NEG

mangos--

man

AGR[PL]

gos

INTENS

ah

that we weren't very

5:18

ti manggosentersao ham

ti

NEG

manggosentersao

man

AGR[PL]

gos

INTENS

entersao

interested

ham

PRO[1PL.EXCL]

that we weren't very interested

5:19

lao

but

5:19

ha li'e ha' ha li'e' ha'

ha li'e

ha

AGR[3S]

li'e

see

ha'

just

ha li'e'

ha

AGR[3S]

li'e'

see

ha'

just

she saw it, she saw it

5:19

She may be just talking about her mom I am guessing due to her mom being the one home all the time

5:20

Lao kao kao ma faisen hamyo kao malago' tungo' put este

lao

but

kao

YNQ

kao

YNQ

ma faisen

ma

AGR[3PL]

faisen

ask

hamyo

PRO.EMP[2PL]

kao

whether

malago'

want

tungo'

know

put

for

este

this

But did did they ask you whether you wanted to know about this?

5:24

"no"

no

5:25

no tåya' na

no

tåya'

there.isn't

na

LNK

no nothing

5:27

tåya' na ha faisen ham

tåya'

there.isn't

na

LNK

ha faisen

ha

AGR[3S]

faisen

ask

ham

PRO[1PL.EXCL]

no she never asked us

5:29

ti ti

ti

NEG

ti

NEG

not not

5:31

goñiha na

goñiha

ga'o-

prefer

-ñiha

3PL.POSS

na

LNK

they preferred

5:33

bai faninskuela

bai

IRR.AGR[1PL.EXCL]

faninskuela

fan

IRR.AGR[PL]

"in".skuela

in.school

for us to be in school

5:35

sa' nu

sa'

because

nu

LNK

because

5:36

ah i bisita nai

ah

i

DET.DEF

bisita

visitor

nai

y'know

ah, the visitor, y'know

5:38

estotbo gi halom guma'

estotbo

disturbance

gi

LCL

halom

inside

guma'

house

were a bother in the house

5:40

todu tiempo guaha guaha taotao gi gima'

todu

all

tiempo

time

guaha

there.is

guaha

there.is

taotao

people

gi

LCL

gima'

house

often there were there were people at the house

5:43

tåya' iyo-mu "privacy" nu tåya' tiempo-mu pun fanestudia

tåya'

there.isn't

iyo-mu

iyo-

possession

-mu

2S.POSS

"privacy"

privacy

nu

LNK

tåya'

there.isn't

tiempo-mu

tiempo

time

-mu

2S.POSS

pun

para

for

un

IRR.AGR[2S]

fanestudia

fan

IRR.ANTIP

estudia

study

there was no privacy for you, there wasn't any time for you to study

5:46

hunggan

yes

5:47

sa' nu un nánangga na pa u fanhånao pa u fanhånao pa guma'-ñiha

sa'

because

nu

OBL

un nánangga

un

AGR[2S]

na~

PROG

nangga

wait

na

LNK

pa

para

for

u fanhånao

u fan

IRR.AGR[3PL]

hånao

go

pa

para

for

u fanhånao

u fan

IRR.AGR[3PL]

hånao

go

pa

para

to

guma'-ñiha

guma'

house

-ñiha

3PL.POSS

because you are waiting for them to go, for them to go to their houses

5:51

pes ayu na un fanena

pes

pues

so

ayu

that

na

COMP

un fanena

un

AGR[2S]

fan

IRR.ANTIP

sena

dinner

pes

pues

so

ayu

that

na

COMP

un fanestudia

un

AGR[2S]

fan

IRR.ANTIP

estudia

study

pues

so

so then you can eat dinner

5:53

hunggan

yes

5:53

pes ayu na un fanestudia pues ti--

ti--

ti

NEG

so that then you could study so not--

5:55

ha' li'e' ha' si nanå-hu an tatå-hu na ti manenteresao ham nu ayu na klåsen cho'cho'

ha'

just

li'e'

see

ha'

just

si

UNM

nanå-hu

nånu

mother

-hu

1S.POSS

an

if

tatå-hu

tåta

father

-hu

1S.POSS

na

COMP

ti

NEG

manenteresao

man

AGR[PL]

enteresao

interested

ham

PRO[1PL.EXCL]

nu

OBL

ayu

that

na

LNK

klåsen

klåsi

type

n

LNK

cho'cho'

work

my mom and dad just saw that we weren't interested in that kind of work

5:59

oh

5:59

"yeah"

yeah

6:00

"it just, it just"

it just, it just

6:02

"it just felt, that's their"

it just felt, that's their

6:04

"that's their profession, that's their choosing"

that's their profession, that's their choosing

6:08

ti ha fuetsas ham

ti

NEG

ha fuetsas

ha

AGR[3S]

fuetsas

force

ham

PRO[1PL.EXCL]

she didn't force us

6:09

pues kao guaha otro cho'cho'-ñiha pat ennao ha' bidan-ñiñiha

pues

so

kao

YNQ

guaha

there.is

otro

other

cho'cho'-ñiha

cho'cho'

work

-ñiha

3PL.POSS

pat

or

ennao

that

ha'

only

bidan-ñiñiha

bida

activity

-ñiha

3PL.POSS

~ñi

PROG

so did they have another occupation or was that the only thing they did

6:13

åhe' "housewife" ha' si nanå-hu, si tatå-hu nu "gardener for the governor's house"

åhe'

no

"housewife"

housewife

ha'

only

si

UNM

nanå-hu

nåna

mother

-hu

1S.POSS

si

UNM

tatå-hu

tåta

father

-hu

1S.POSS

nu

COMP

"gardener for the governor's house"

gardener for the governor's house

no, my mom was a housewife, my father was a gardener for the governor's house

6:17

"ohh, okay"

ohh, okay

6:17

"he was a gardener there"

he was a gardener there

6:19

lao ah

lao

but

ah

but ah

6:21

nu ah ayu ha' che'cho'-ñiha

nu

uh

ah

ayu

that

ha'

only

che'cho'-ñiha

che'cho'

work

-ñiha

3PL.POSS

uh ah, that was their only work

6:23

"y'know, just ah, farming?"

y'know, just ah, farming?

6:25

si tatå-hu "farming" ha' nai

si

UNM

tatå-hu

tåta

father

-hu

1S.POSS

"farming"

farming

ha'

only

nai

y'know

my dad just did farming, y'know

6:27

si nanå-hu

si

UNM

nanå-hu

nåna

mother

-hu

1S.POSS

my mom

6:28

"housewife and ahm care-- caregiver"

housewife and ahm care-- caregiver

housewife and ahm care- caregiver

6:31

yan mañåsaga hamyo giya Ma'ina

yan

and

mañåsaga

man-

ARG[PL]

så~

PROG

såga

stay

hamyo

PRO.EMP[2PL]

giya

LCL

Ma'ina

and you were living in Ma'ina

6:33

Ma'ina, tak-- Ma'ina iyon-måmi "village"

Ma'ina

ták--

tak--

further

Ma'ina

iyon-måmi

iyo-

possession

-måmi

1PL.EXCL.POSS

"village"

village

Ma'ina-- Ma'ina is our village

6:35

ennao i båndan nanå-mu pat si tatå-mu

ennao

that

i

DET.DEF

båndan

bånda

side

n

LNK

nanå-mu

nåna

mother

-mu

1S.POSS

pat

or

si

UNM

tatå-mu

tåta

father

-mu

1S.POSS

that is your mom's or dad's side?

6:38

i båndan tatå-hu ayu na lugåt

i

DET.DEF

båndan

bånda

side

n

LNK

tatå-hu

tåta

father

-hu

1S.POSS

ayu

that

na

LNK

lugåt

place

that area was my dad's side

6:41

låo, "in fact"

låo

but

"in fact"

in fact

but in fact

6:42

nu, ah

nu

uh

ah

uh ah

6:44

i båndan nanå-hu mås na man-- na man-- ah

i

DET.DEF

båndan

bånda

side

n

LNK

nanå-hu

nåna

mother

-hu

1S.POSS

mås

more

na

LNK

man

AGR[PL]

na

LNK

man

AGR[PL]

ah

my mom's side was more ah

6:49

"that I grew up with"

that I grew up with

6:50

"my cousins from my mother's side"

my cousins from my mother's side

6:53

pus nu ahm

pus nu

pues nu

so.then

ahm

um

so then um

6:54

taotao månu si nanå-mu

taotao

person

månu

where

si

UNM

nanå-mu

nåna

mother

-mu

1S.POSS

where was your mom from

6:55

Ma'ina

6:56

Ma'ina

6:57

si tatå-hu "originally" taotao Aniguak

si

UNM

tatå-hu

tåta

father

-hu

1S.POSS

"originally"

originally

taotao

person

Aniguak

my dad was originally from Anigua

6:59

oh... oh pues hihot hihot ha'

oh

pues

so

hihot

close

hihot

close

ha'

just

so then they were close close by

7:00

si nanå-hu si nanå-hu "yeah" si nanå-hu "originally" taotao Hulåle'

si

UNM

nanå-hu

nåna

mother

-hu

1S.POSS

si

UNM

nanå-hu

nåna

mother

-hu

1S.POSS

"yeah"

yeah

si

UNM

nanå-hu

nåna

mother

-hu

1S.POSS

"originally"

originally

taotao

person

Hulåle'

my mom, my mom, my mom was originally from Hulåle'

7:04

pus si tatå-hu nai manggái tano' gi hulo' gi Nimitz Hill

pus

pues

so

si

UNM

tatå-hu

tåta

father

-hu

1S.POSS

nai

COMP

manggái

man

AGR[PL]

gái

have

tano'

tåno'

land

gi

LCL

hulo'

up

gi

LCL

Nimitz Hill

and my father, they've got land up there at Nimitz Hill

7:07

mhmm

7:08

manmanå'i tåno' ni i

manmanå'i

man

AGR[PL]

ma

PASS

nå'i

give

tåno'

land

ni

COMP

i

DET.DEF

they were given land which

7:10

ni iyon-ñiha nu "forefathers" yan nu ah manlåncho gi hulo'

ni

COMP

iyon-ñiha

iyo-

possession

-ñiha

3S.POSS

nu

uh

"forefathers"

forefathers

yan

and

nu

uh

ah

manlåncho

man

AGR[PL]

låncho

farm

gi

LCL

hulo'

up

belonged to their forefathers and uh they farmed up there

7:14

ayu na manhånao hulo' Ma'ina pa u fanlåncho

ayu

that

na

COMP

manhånao

man

AGR[PL]

hånao

go

hulo'

up

Ma'ina

pa

para

to

u fanlåncho

u fan

IRR.AGR[3PL]

låncho

farm

that was their purpose up there in Ma'ina, to farm

7:17

lao todu tiempo manhåhanao pa i tasi man--

lao

but

todu

all

tiempo

time

manhåhanao

man

AGR[PL]

hå~

PROG

hånao

go

pa

para

to

i

DET.DEF

tasi

sea

man--

man

AGR[PL]

but all the time they went to the beach to

7:20

mameska lokkue' lao

mameska

man

AGR[PL]

peska

fish

lokkue'

also

lao

but

to fish also, but

7:21

"they were originally from Hagåtña and Anigua'"

they were originally from Hagåtña and Anigua'

7:24

ha'a

yeah

7:25

pus nu ahm

pus nu

pues nu

so.then

ahm

um

so then um

7:27

dikike' na "village" i Ma'ina

dikike'

small

na

LNK

"village"

village

i

DET.DEF

Ma'ina

Ma'ina is a small village

7:29

ya nu ah

ya

and

nu

like

ah

and like ah

7:30

pus i båndan nanå-hu na, na mås hu tungo' parentes-hu

pus

pues

so

i

DET.DEF

båndan

bånda

side

n

LNK

nanå-hu

nåna

mother

-hu

1S.POSS

na

LNK

na

LNK

mås

more

hu tungo'

hu

AGR[1S]

tungo'

know

parentes-hu

parentes

family

-hu

1S.POSS

so I know more of, of my mom's side of the family

7:34

i bånda tatå-hu

i

DET.DEF

bånda

side

tatå-hu

tåta

father

-hu

1S.POSS

my dad's side

7:36

hu tungo' ha' palu lao ti gos meggai

hu tungo'

hu

AGR[1S]

tungo'

know

ha'

just

palu

some

lao

but

ti

NED

gos

very

meggai

much

I know some but not a lot

7:38

i tatan i familian Teresa tiningo'-hu na Terlaje

i

DET.DEF

tatan

tåta

father

n

LNK

i

DET.DEF

familian

familia

family

n

LNK

Teresa

tiningo'-hu

tiningo'

knowledge

-hu

1S.POSS

na

LNK

Terlaje

I know the Terlajes from Teresa's dad

7:43

taotao Yo'ña siha

taotao

people

Yo'ña

siha

PRO[3PL]

they were from Yo'ña

7:45

okay

7:46

ah

7:47

pues kao hagas hao ha' fumino' CHamoru?

pues

so

kao

YNQ

hagas

long.time

hao

PRO[2S]

ha'

only

fumino'

<um>

AGR[nPL]

fino'

speak

CHamoru

so did you did you always speak CHamoru?

7:50

"From the time I was born, in fact I had to learn, I had to learn English"

From the time I was born, in fact I had to learn, I had to learn English

7:55

Gi eskuela?

gi

LCL

eskuela

school

at school?

7:56

Gi eskuela. "I had to learn English."

gi

LCL

eskuela

eskuela.

school

"I had to learn English"

I had to learn English

At school. I had to learn English.

7:58

mhmm

7:59

Gi umm Hagåtña

gi

LCL

umm

Hagåtña

in umm Hagåtña

8:00

Kao makkat?

Kao

YNQ

makkat

difficult

Was it difficult?

8:02

Åhe' dai, hu "li--" ya-hu.

åhe'

no

dai

friend

hu "li--"

hu

AGR[1S]

like

ya-hu

ya-

like

-hu

1S.POSS

No, friend, I li-- I liked it.

8:03

ya nu hu kókonne' si tatå-hu anggen guaha "homework" hu kókonne' si (ta)tå-hu på'go yan matå'chong ham ya hu fa'nå'--

ya

and

nu

uh

hu kókonne'

hu

AGR[1S]

ko~

PROG

konne'

take

si

UNM

tatå-hu

tåta

father

-hu

1S.POSS

anggen

if

guaha

there.is

"homework"

homework

hu kókonne'

hu

AGR[1S]

ko~

PROG

konne'

take

si

UNM

(ta)tå-hu

tåta

father

-hu

1S.POSS

på'go

now

yan

and

matå'chong

sit

ham

PRO[1PL.EXCL]

ya

and

hu fa'nå'--

hu

AGR[1S]

fa'nå'gue

teach

and uh i used to take my dad when I had homework, I used to take my dad then and we would sit and I taught him

8:07

ya hågu un fa'nå'gue si tatå-hu?

ya

and

hågu

PRO.EMP[2S]

un fa'nå'gue

un

AGR[2S]

fa'nå'gue

teach

si

UNM

tatå-hu

tåta

father

-hu

1S.POSS

and you would teach my (sic) dad?

8:08

ya hu fa'nå'gue gue' English si tatå-hu

ya

and

hu fa'nå'gue

hu

AGR[1S]

fa'nå'gue

teach

gue'

PRO[3S]

English

si

UNM

tatå-hu

tåta

father

-hu

1S.POSS

and I taught him English, my dad

8:10

ha'a

yeah

8:11

ha'a pus nu "I-- I-- no I-- it--" ti hu na'mappot nu tumungo' English

ha'a

yeah

pus

pues

so

nu

uh

"I-- I-- no I-- it--"

I-- I-- no I-- it--

ti

NEG

hu na'mappot

hu

AGR[1S]

na'

CAUS

mappot

difficult

nu

uh

tumungo'

<um>

INF

tungo'

know

English

yeah, so I-- I-- no I-- it-- did not make it difficult to know English

8:18

tumungo' "you know"

tumungo'

<um>

INF

tungo'

know

"you know"

you know

to know, you know

8:20

Taiguihi eskuela lokkue'

Taiguihi

like.that

eskuela

school

lokkue'

also

like school also

8:20

"I guess" nu ah "I was very ah"

"I guess"

I guess

nu

OBL

ah

"I was very ah"

I was very ah

I guess that ah I was very ah

8:24

lao hunggan, fino' CHamoru ha'

lao

but

hunggan

yes

fino'

language

CHamoru

ha'

only

but yes, CHamoru only

8:26

"my original tongue"

my original tongue

8:27

Ngai'an ah Anggen ti lalålo', Ngai'an na mafañågu hao?

Ngai'an

When?

ah

anggen

if

ti

NEG

lalålo'

lålalo'

angry

Ngai'an

When?

na

LNK

mafañågu

born

hao

PRO[2S]

When ah, if doesn't bother you, when were you born?

8:31

"nineteen forty-seven"

nineteen forty-seven

8:32

"nineteen forty-seven"

nineteen forty-seven

8:33

ha'a

yeah

8:34

Kao hågu i-- i mås åmko'?

Kao

YNQ

hågu

PRO[2S]

i

DET.DEF

i

DET.DEF

mås

most

åmko'

old

Are you the oldest?

8:36

guåhu, guåhu mås åmko' ni' mulåla'

guåhu

PRO.EMP[1S]

guåhu

PRO.EMP[1S]

mås

most

åmko'

old

ni'

OBL

mulåla'

<um>

INF

låla'

alive

I, I am the oldest girl who is alive

8:39

"the very first born was a female" lao måtai

"the very first born was a female"

the very first born was a female

lao

but

måtai

died

the very first born was a female, but died

8:43

oh

8:43

"so then I had two brothers before me" pes guåhu, pes palå'an, pes låhi, pes palå'an

"so then I had two brothers before me"

"so then I had two brothers before me

pes

pues

then

guåhu

PRO.EMP[1S]

pes

pues

then

palå'an

girl

pes

pues

then

låhi

boy

pes

pues

then

palå'an

girl

so then I had two brothers before me, then me, then a girl, then a boy, then a girl

8:49

"six survivors"

six survivors

8:51

"okay"

okay

8:52

ha'a

yeah

8:53

ahh

ah

ahh

8:53

"yeah"

yeah

8:56

"kay"

kay

8:58

hu taitai i kuestion guini

hu taitai

hu

AGR[1S]

taitai

read

i

DET.DEF

kuestion

question

guini

here

I am reading the question here

9:01

kao un tungo' håfa i nå'an familiå-mu pat håfa mås matungo'-ñiha?

kao

YNQ

un tungo'

un

AGR[2S]

tungo'

know

håfa

what

i

DET.DEF

nå'an

name

familiå-mu

familia

family

-mu

2S.POSS

pat

or

håfa

what

mås

most

matungo'-ñiha

ma

PASS

tungo'

know

-ñiha

3PL.POSS

Do you know what your family name or what they were known most for?

9:04

oh si nanå-hu familian CHå

oh

si

UNM

nanå-hu

nåna

mother

-hu

1S.POSS

familian

familia

family

n

LNK

CHå

tea

oh, my mom is from the CHå (Tea) family

9:07

chå? kalan i gimen?

chå

tea

kalan

like

i

DET.DEF

gimen

drink

Tea? Like the drink?

9:07

"and" fami--

"and"

and

fami--

familia

family

and family

9:09

Da-- kalan i gimen fami-- "and" familian Lachi

Da--

da(?)

Yeah

kalan

like

i

DET.DEF

gimen

drink

fami--

familia

family

"and"

and

familian

familia

family

n

LNK

Lachi

wrong

da- like the drink fami- and from the Lachi (Wrong) family

9:12

ha! Familian Lachi?

ha!

Familian

Familia

family

n

LNK

Lachi

wrong

Ha! The Wrong family?

9:13

A'a familian Lachi

A'a

a'a

yep

familian

familia

family

n

LNK

Lachi

wrong

yep, the Wrong family

9:15

"and" familian CHå

"and"

and

familian

familia

family

n

LNK

CHå

tea

and the Tea family

9:15

[laughing]

laughing

9:16

si tatå-hu, dai, si tatå-hu sa' ni-- ni-- ni-- "you know I never did"

si

UNM

tatå-hu

tåta

father

-hu

1S.POSS

dai

friend

si

UNM

tatå-hu

tåta

father

-hu

1S.POSS

sa'

because

ni--

ni

not

ni--

ni

not

ni--

ni

not

"you know I never did"

you know I never did

my dad, friend, my dad because you know I never did

9:21

"was clear" håfa nu yo-ña nu

"was clear"

was clear

håfa

what

nu

like

yo-ña

iyo-

possession

-ña

3S.POSS

nu

OBL

was clear like what was his

9:24

"family name" si tatå-hu lao fana'an familian Enna'

"family name"

family name

si

UNM

tatå-hu

tåta

father

-hu

1S.POSS

lao

but

fana'an

named

familian

familia

family

n

LNK

Enna'

my dad's family name but maybe they were named the Enna' family

9:27

Enna'?

Enna'

Enna'?

9:27

lao si nanå-hu familian CHå

lao

but

si

UNM

nanå-hu

nåna

mother

-hu

1S.POSS

familian

familia

family

n

LNK

CHå

tea

but my mom was from the Tea family

9:29

Lizama-Måfnas si nanå-hu

Lizama-Måfnas

si

UNM

nanå-hu

nåna

mother

-hu

1S.POSS

my mom was Lizama-Mafnas

9:32

ya i Lizåm-

ya

and

i

DET.DEF

Lizåm-

Lizåma

Lizama

and the Lizam--

9:33

i Lizama

i

DET.DEF

Lizama

the Lizama

9:34

familian Lachi fana'an ayu

familian

familia

family

n

LNK

Lachi

wrong

fana'an

named

ayu

that

Wrong family were named that

9:36

i Måfnas, familian CHå

i

DET.DEF

Måfnas

familian

familia

family

n

LNK

CHå

tea

the Mafnas were the Tea family

9:38

Familian CHå yan familian Lache

Familian

Familia

family

n

LNK

CHå

tea

yan

and

familian

familia

family

n

LNK

Lache

wrong

Tea family and Wrong family

9:38

ha'a

yeah

yes

9:40

Ha'a, meggai parentes-hu nu na CHå

Ha'a

ha'a

yeah

meggai

many

parentes-hu

parentes

relatives

-hu

1S.POSS

nu

uh

na

LNK

CHå

tea

yes, I have many Tea family uh relatives

9:42

Familian CHå giya Barigåda

Familian

Familia

family

n

LNK

CHå

tea

giya

LCL

Barigåda

The Tea family is in Barrigada

9:44

Wow ni ngai'an na u hungok familian CHå yan familian Lachi

Wow

wow

ni

not

ngai'an

ever

na

COMP

u

IRR.AGR[1S]

hungok

hear

familian

familia

family

n

LNK

CHå

tea

yan

and

familian

familia

family

n

LNK

Lachi

wrong

Wow, I have never heard of the Tea and the Wrong family

9:45

Ha'a i Måfnas nai, i Måfnas bula bula bula nu Barigåda Måfnas

Ha'a

yeah

i

DET.DEF

Måfnas

nai

y'know

i

DET.DEF

Måfnas

bula

many

bula

many

bula

many

nu

OBL

Barigåda

Måfnas

Yes, the Mafnas nai, there were many many many Mafnas in Barrigada

9:51

I Lizåma manspreadout todu

I

DET.DEF

Lizåma

manspreadout

man

AGR[PL]

"spread out"

spread out

todu

all

The Liazama's were all spread out

9:53

hunggan

yes

9:54

"yeah"

yeah

9:56

ahh

9:57

Okay esta hu faisen este

Okay

okay

esta

already

hu faisen

hu

AGR[1S]

faisen

ask

este

this

okay I already asked you

9:59

Ayu ayu ayu tiningo'-hu, lao si tatå-hu, dai, ti hu tungo' håyi nu

Ayu

that

ayu

that

ayu

that

tiningo'-hu

tiningo'

knowledge

-hu

1S.POSS

lao

but

si

UNM

tatå-hu

tåta

father

-hu

1S.POSS

dai

friend

ti

NEG

hu tungo'

hu

AGR[1S]

tungo'

know

håyi

who

nu

uh

that's that's that's my knowledge, but my father, friend, I do not know what uh

10:02

familian na'an-ñiha

familia

family

n

LNK

nå'an

name

-ñiha

3PL.POSS

the family's names were

10:03

okay

10:04

ah okay

ah

okay

ah okay

10:06

Tåtte para i suruhåna, håyi humåhanao para i suruhåna håfa na klåsen taotao?

Tåtte

back

para

to

i

DET.DEF

suruhåna

traditional.healer(f)

håyi

who?

humåhanao

<um>

AGR[nPL]

hå~

PROG

hånao

go

para

for

i

DET.DEF

suruhåna

traditional.healer(f)

håfa

what?

na

LNK

klåsen

klåse

type

n

LNK

taotao

person

back to the native healers, who would visit the native healers, what types of people?

10:12

Håfa siha na rasón ni mambisísita?

Håfa

what?

siha

PL

na

LNK

rasón

reason

ni

that

mambisísita

man

AGR[nPL]

si~

PROG

bisita

visit

What were the reasons they would visit?

10:14

Okay håyi siha manmalålangu?

okay

håyi

who

siha

PL

manmalålangu

man

AGR[PL]

lå~

PROG

malångu

sick

Okay who were the sick?

10:16

mmhm

10:17

nu meggai biåhi na famagu'on

nu

uh

meggai

many

biåhi

time

na

LNK

famagu'on

children

uh many times they were children

10:19

famagu'on?

famagu'on

women

women?

10:20

meggai biåhi sa' ma- "my mother was known"

meggai

many

biåhi

time

sa'

because

ma-

PASS

"my mother was known"

my mother was known

many times because my mother was known

10:24

"to be, ahm, herbal"

to be, ahm, herbal

10:27

pus nu ah i famagu'on manmåfatto ni ayi i colic

pus

pues

so

nu

uh

ah

i

DET.DEF

famagu'on

children

manmåfatto

man

AGR[PL]

ma

PASS

fåtto

arrive

ni

that

ayi

that

i

DET.DEF

colic

so uh ah, the children came with colic

10:32

pus si nanå-hu nai anggen anggen gos malangu i patgon

pus

pues

so

si

UNM

nanå-hu

nåna

mother

-hu

1S.POSS

nai

y'know

anggen

if

anggen

if

gos

very

malangu

sick

i

DET.DEF

patgon

child

so my mother nai if if the child was very sick

10:35

mamaisen på'go, "esta un konne' pa i mediku"?

mamaisen

ask.for

på'go

presently

esta

already

un konne'

un

AGR[2S]

konne'

take

pa

para

to

i

DET.DEF

mediku

doctor

she'd ask right away, "you already took him/her to the doctor?"

10:38

Oh fine'nana

Oh

oh

fine'nana

first

oh first

10:38

Esta un chagi med-- ah cha-- nu "you know" guaha na biåhi na ah

Esta

esta

already

un

AGR[2S]

chagi

try

med--

mediku

doctor

ah

cha--

chagi

try

nu

uh

"you know"

you know

guaha na biåhi na

sometimes (lit: there.are.LNK.times.COMP)

ah

you already tried, you know, sometimes

10:41

"just to get a background" nai

"just to get a background"

just to get a background

nai

y'know

just to get a background, y'know

10:43

ha faisen "kao esta månao pa i mediku ya ti inayuda i patgon"?

ha faisen

ha

AGR[3S]

faisen

ask

kao

YNQ

esta

already

månao

went

pa

para

to

i

DET.DEF

mediku

doctor

ya

and

ti

NEG

inayuda

<in>

PASS

ayuda

help

i

DET.DEF

patgon

child

she asked, "did you go to the doctor and it did not help the child"

10:46

pus ayu na "she'll get into her business"

pus

pues

so

ayu

that

na

LNK

"she'll get into her business"

she'll get into her business

so then she'll get into her business

10:49

pus nu ahm

pus nu

pues nu

so.then

ahm

so then ahm

10:51

"she would make"

she would make

10:52

"herbal" pes ha nåna'yi nu ah

"herbal"

herbal

pes

pues

then

ha

AGR[3S]

nåna'yi

nå~

PROG

nå'yi

add

nu

like

ah

herbal and she would add like ah

10:55

"something to, ahm..."

something to, ahm...

10:57

"to... to make the child cough," noh?

"to... to make the child cough"

to... to make the child cough

noh

TAG

to... to make the child cough, yeah?

10:59

pes nu ah uyu i

pes nu

pues nu

so then

ah

uyu

do

i

ehh

so then she would ehh

11:02

i kannai-ña hålom para u

i

DET.DEF

kannai-ña

kannai

hand

-ña

3S.POSS

hålom

into

para

for

u

IRR.AGR[3S]

stick her hand into

11:04

"scrape out whatever's choking that child"

scrape out whatever's choking that child

11:07

ya ha na'muta'

ya

and

ha na'muta'

ha

AGR[3S]

na'

CAUS

muta'

vomit

and she would make them vomit

11:08

wow

11:10

pus meggai meggai famagu'on manmåfatto sa' "that was her reputation" na

pus

pues

so

meggai

many

meggai

many

famagu'on

children

manmåfatto

man

AGR[PL]

få~

PROG

fåtto

come

sa'

because

"that was her reputation"

that was her reputation

na

COMP

so there were many children that came because that was her reputation

11:15

"herbal medicine" bidåda-ña

"herbal medicine"

herbal medicine

bidåda-ña

då~

PROG

bida

work

-ña

3S.POSS

she was doing herbal medicine

11:17

si tatå-hu-- yan manlalasa

si

UNM

tatå-hu--

tåta

father

-hu

1S.POSS

yan

and

manlalasa

man

AGR[PL]

la~

PROG

lasa

massage

my dad, and she would massage

11:19

bula ya-ña manmalasa guaha na biåhi na dos oras si nanå-hu ni manlalasa

bula

many

ya-ña

ya-

like

-ña

3S.POSS

manmalasa

man

AGR[PL]

ma

PASS

lasa

massage

guaha na biåhi na

sometimes

dos

two

oras

hours

si

UNM

nanå-hu

nåna

mother

-hu

1S.POSS

ni

that

manlalasa

man

AGR[PL]

la~

PROG

lasa

massage

there were many that liked to be massaged, sometimes my mom would be massaging for 2 hours

11:24

ayu siha i man-- i malago' manmalasa put "tension"

ayu

that

siha

PRO.EMP[3PL]

i

DET.DEF

man--

man-

AGR[PL]

i

DET.DEF

malago'

want

manmalasa

man

AGR[PL]

ma

PASS

lasa

massage

put

for

"tension"

tension

those that wanted to be massaged was for tension

11:28

put ahm guaha ayi manaksidente ya man- "you know whatever suffering they they had with their back or their neck"

put

for

ahm

um

guaha

there.is

ayi

that

manaksidente

man

AGR[PL]

aksidente

accident

ya

and

man-

AGR[PL]

"you know whatever suffering they they had with their back or their neck"

you know whatever suffering they they had with their back or their neck

so ahm there were those who were in an accident, you know whatever suffering they they had with their back or their neck

11:37

pus

pues

so

11:38

fo-- ayi siha manaksidente ayu siha i... i...

fo--

"for"

for

ayi

that

siha

PL

manaksidente

man

AGR[PL]

aksidente

accident

ayu

that

siha

PL

i

eh

i

eh

so those who were in accidents, those eh.. eh...

11:41

manmalago' an manlasa "for to relieve their tension and ah"

manmalago'

man

AGR[PL]

malago'

want

an

if

manlasa

man

AGR[PL]

lasa

massage

"for to relieve their tension and ah"

for to relieve their tension and ah

wanted to be massaged to relieve their tension and ah

11:45

guaha ayu måfatto ha, dai, para u malasa ayi bihu guaha na biåhi na

guaha

there.is

ayu

that

måfatto

ma

PASS

fåtto

come

ha'

just

dai

friend

para

for

u malasa

u

IRR.AGR[3S]

ma

PASS

lasa

massage

ayi

that

bihu

old

guaha na biåhi na

sometimes

some would come, friend, just to be massaged, those elder, were sometimes

11:49

pudi pa u malasa ha'

pudi

puede

maybe

pa

para

for

u malasa

u

IRR.AGR[3S]

malasa

massaged

ha'

EMP

they maybe just came to be massaged

11:50

[chumåchalek]

[laughing]

11:51

pes nu

pes

pues

so

nu

uh

so uh

11:53

pes nu lao lao meggaiña meggaiña "herbal" si-- na na famagu'on nu manmåfatto gi gima'-måmi, si tatå-hu ayu siha i guaha na biåhi na pokpok nai

pes

pues

so

nu

uh

lao

but

lao

but

meggaiña

more.than

meggaiña

more.than

"herbal"

herbal

si--

si

UNM

na

COMP

na

COMP

famagu'on

children

nu

OBL

manmåfatto

man

AGR[PL]

få~

PROG

fåtto

come

gi

LCL

gima'-måmi

guma'

house

-måmi

1PL.EXCL.POSS

si

UNM

tatå-hu

tåta

father

-hu

1S.POSS

ayu

that

siha

PRO.EMP[3PL]

i

DET.DEF

guaha na biåhi na

sometimes

pokpok

swollen

nai

y'know

so then, but but mostly, mostly herbal that that the children come to our house for, my dad did those that sometimes were swollen, y'know?

12:02

guaha na biåhi na pokpok na ti malago' humånao "or or whatever"

guaha na biåhi na

sometimes

pokpok

have.swelling

na

COMP

ti

NEG

malago'

want

humånao

<um>

INF

hånao

go

"or or whatever"

or or whatever

sometimes they had swelling and they did not want to go to or or whatever

12:06

ya nu guaha na biåhi si tatå-hu na ha chule' ha' i te'la'-ña ya ha palai'i

ya

and

nu

OBL

guaha na biåhi

there are times

si

UNM

tatå-hu

tåta

father

-hu

1S.POSS

na

COMP

ha chule'

ha

AGR[3S]

chule'

take

ha'

EMP

i

DET.DEF

te'la'-ña

to'la'

spit

-ña

3S.POSS

ya

and

ha palai'i

ha

AGR[3S]

palai

rub.in

i

APPL

and there were times when my dad would just take his saliva and rub it in

12:11

"to see what happens"

to see what happens

12:12

[chumåchalek]

[laughing]

12:12

"funny," dai, este as tatå-hu

"funny"

funny

dai

friend

este

this

as

UNM.OBL

tatå-hu

tåta

father

-hu

1S.POSS

my dad was funny, dear

12:14

lao si tatå-hu manlolommok... "whatever" lom-- "whatever" nu "herbal" ha lolommok ya guaha na biåhi na palalai

lao

but

si

UNM

tatå-hu

tåta

father

-hu

1S.POSS

manlolommok

man

ANTIP

lo~

PROG

lommok

pulverize

"whatever"

whatever

lom--

lommok

pulverize

"whatever"

whatever

nu

uh

"herbal"

herbal

ha lolommok

ha

AGR[3S]

lo~

PROG

lommok

pulverize

ya

and

guaha na biåhi na

sometimes

palalai

la~

PROG

palai

smear

but my dad would pound the medicine whatever pou-- whatever uh herbal he pounded and sometimes would apply it

12:22

"and usually it's um"

and usually it's um

and usually its um

12:24

"you know just" denegridu "or something" nai "some unknown"

"you know just"

you know just

denegridu

bruise

"or something"

or something

nai

y'know

"some unknown"

some unknown

you know just bruises or something nai some unknown

12:28

"unknown illness that crops up on the skin"

unknown illness that crops up on the skin

12:33

pus ha palalai på'go ni i amot

pus

pues

then

ha palalai

ha

AGR[3S]

la~

PROG

palai

rub.in

på'go

now

ni

that

i

DET.DEF

amot

åmot

medicine

then he would promptly rub the medicine in

12:35

pes an

pes

pues

so

an

if

so if

12:36

"you know"

you know

12:38

"that- that's it"

that- that's it

12:39

"to just see if it works"

to just see if it works

12:42

uhm Pues taimanu ni ma'apåpasi siha?

uhm

um

Pues

so

taimanu

how

ni

that

ma'apåpasi

ma

PASS

pa~

PROG

åpas

payment

i

APPL

siha

PRO.EMP[3PL]

uhm so how would they be paid?

12:46

Ti manggågao si nanå-hu kopble

Ti

NEG

manggågao

man

ANTIP

gågao

ask.for

si

UNM

nanå-hu

nåna

mother

-hu

1S.POSS

kopble

money

my mom did not ask for payment

12:49

ti manggågao lao ginen i minagof i

ti

NEG

manggågao

man

ANTIP

gågao

ask.for

lao

but

ginen

from

i

DET.DEF

minagof

happiness

i

DET.DEF

she did not ask but from the happiness of the

12:53

Pues håfa na klåsi

Pues

sp

håfa

what?

na

LNK

klåsi

type

so what type

12:54

"Yeah" minagof-- ni minagof-ñiha ha' manåna'i kopble

"Yeah"

yeah

minagof--

minagof

happiness

ni

OBL

minagof-ñiha

minagof

happiness

-ñiha

3PL.POSS

ha'

EMP

manåna'i

man

AGR[PL]

nå~

PROG

nå'i

give

kopble

money

Yeah from happiness-- just from their happiness did they give payment

12:58

Tåya' na ha renunsia gue' [chumåchalek]

Tåya'

there.isn't

na

LNK

ha renunsia

ha

AGR[3S]

renunsia

refuse

gui'

it

she never refused it, though [laughing]

12:59

Håfa-- Kalan-- Kao ma nåna'i nengkanno' pat

Håfa--

Håfa

what?

Kalan-

Kalan

like

Kao

YNQ

ma nåna'i

ma

AGR[3PL]

nå~

PROG

nå'i

give

nengkanno'

food

pat

or

what-- like-- did they give food or

13:02

no

13:03

no ti ma chulele'i nengkanno'

no

ti

NEG

ma chulele'i

ma

AGR[3PL]

le~

PROG

chule'

bring

i

APPL

nengkanno'

food

no, they did no bring over food

13:05

ayu ha' i ayu ah nu ah

ayu

that

ha'

EMP

i

DET.DEF

ayu

that

ah

nu

um

ah

only that only ahm that ahm

13:07

ayu ha' anggen ma nå'i kopble

ayu

that

ha'

EMP

anggen

if

ma nå'i

ma

AGR[3PL]

nå'i

give

kopble

payment

only if they gave payment

13:10

lao ti meggai nai ti dångkolo "whatevers whatever they"

lao

but

ti

NEG

meggai

much

nai

y'know

ti

NEG

dångkolo

big

"whatevers whatever they"

whatevers whatever they

but it was not a lot, y'know, it was not big, whatevers whatever they

13:14

"whatever they can give her"

whatever they can give her

13:15

Siña ma apåsi

Siña

able

ma apåsi

ma

AGR[3PL]

apåsi

pay

(whatever) they could pay

13:16

"yeah"

yeah

13:18

"just out of the..."

just out of the...

just out of the

13:19

"you know"

you know

13:20

mmhm

13:22

"kindness of their heart" ma nå'i

"kindness of their heart"

kindness of their heart

ma nå'i

ma

AGR[3PL]

nå'i

give

they gave from the kindness of their heart

13:24

Okay,ah pues ngai'an na manhånao para si påle' ya ngai'an na ma hånao para i suruhåna?

Okay

okay

ah

pues

so

ngai'an

when

na

COMP

manhånao

man

AGR[PL]

hånao

go

para

for

si

UNM

påle'

priest

ya

and

ngai'an

when

na

COMP

ma

AGR[3PL]

hånao

go

para

for

i

DET.DEF

suruhåna

traditional.healer(f)

Okay so when would the people go to the priest and when would they go to the suruhana?

13:32

ti hu tungo', dai, ennao

ti

NEG

hu tungo'

hu

AGR[1S]

tungo'

know

dai

friend

ennao

that

I don't know that, friend

13:34

ah ah håfa i kuestion?

ah

håfa

what

i

DET.DEF

kuestion

question

ah ah what was the question?

13:35

Pues si påle'

Pues

so

si

UNM

påle'

priest

so the priest

13:37

para si påle'?

para

for

si

UNM

påle'

priest

for the priest

13:38

Hunggan

yes

13:41

Ti hu-- oh ti hu--

Ti

NEG

hu--

hu

AGR[1S]

oh

ti

NEG

hu--

hu

AGR[1S]

i don't-- oh I don't--

13:44

kay

13:45

ah

13:47

taimanu na un tungo' put i åmot put-- pat i kinalamten suruhåna?

taimanu

how

na

COMP

un

AGR[2S]

tungo'

know

put

for

i

DET.DEF

åmot

medicine

put--

put

for

pat

or

i

DET.DEF

kinalamten

activity

suruhåna

traditional.healer(f)

how did you know about the medicine or the activities of a suruhåna?

13:55

"that was their lifestyle"

that was their lifestyle

13:57

si nanå-hu nai fina'nå'gue gi as nanå-ña an tatå-ña

si

UNM

nanå-hu

nåna

mother

-hu

1S.POSS

nai

y'know

fina'nå'gue

<in>

PASS

fa'nå'gue

teach

gi as

UNM.OBL

nanå-ña

nåna

mother

-ña

3S.POSS

an

if

tatå-ña

tåta

father

-ña

3S.POSS

my mom was taught by her mom and her dad

14:01

"so she kinda grew up with her own family being suruhanus"

so she kinda grew up with her own family being suruhanus

so she kinda grew up with her own family being local healers

14:06

si tatå-hu "was just his own thing"

si

UNM

tatå-hu

tåta

father

-hu

1S.POSS

"was just his own thing"

was just his own thing

my dad was just his own thing

14:08

lao ahm "that that's"

lao

but

ahm

um

"that that's"

that that's

but ahm that that's

14:11

"they- they just practiced it"

they- they just practiced it

they they just practiced it

14:14

"since they were younger"

since they were younger

14:17

"from their own household"

from their own household

14:18

Kao- kao un hongge ni i åmot-ñiha?

Kao

YNQ

kao

YNQ

un hongge

un

AGR[2S]

hongge

believe

ni

that

i

DET.DEF

åmot-ñiha

åmot

medicine

-ñiha

3PL.POSS

Do-- Do you beleive in their medicine?

14:21

Hunggan

yes

14:21

Hunggan hu hongge

Hunggan

yes

hu hongge

hu

AGR[1S]

hongge

believe

yes I believe

14:22

hunggan hu hongge na manli'e'-hu meggai ni manma'ayuda

hunggan

yes

hu hongge

hu

AGR[1S]

hongge

believe

na

COMP

manli'e'-hu

man

ANTIP

li'e'

see

-hu

1S.POSS

meggai

many

ni

OBL

manma'ayuda

man

AGR[PL]

ma

PASS

ayuda

help

yes I believe, I saw many they helped

14:27

meggai manma'ayuda

meggai

many

manma'ayuda

man

AGR[PL]

ma

PASS

ayuda

help

there were many they helped

14:29

hu hongge lao ti presisu ha' hu' nai

hu hongge

hu

AGR[1S]

hongge

believe

lao

but

ti

NEG

presisu

important

ha'

EMP

hu'

PRO[1S]

nai

y'know

i believe but it was not imperative for me

14:31

mmhm

mmh

14:32

ti- ti ti ayu nu

ti-

ti

NEG

ti

NEG

ti

NEG

ayu

that

nu

COMP

that was not not not

14:34

pa bai f-- pa bai falåggue'

pa

para

for

bai

FUT

f--

falåggue'

run.after

pa

para

for

bai

FUT

falåggue'

run.after

for me to r-- for me to run after

14:38

ah taimanu na ma tungo' este na kinalamten put suruhåna

ah

taimanu

how

na

COMP

ma tungo'

ma

AGR[3PL]

tungo'

know

este

this

na

LNK

kinalamten

activity

put

for

suruhåna

traditional.healer(f)

ah how did they know about the activities of a suruhåna

14:43

Oh

oh

14:44

Mana- i- i- man- manásangani ha' i taotao

Mana--

mana'-

PASS.CAUS

i--

i

DET.DEF

i--

i

DET.DEF

man--

mana'-

PASS.CAUS

manásangani

mana'

PASS.CAUS

sångan

say

i

APPL

ha'

EMP

i

DET.DEF

taotao

people

they they they just told each other the people

14:48

manásangani ha'

manásangani

mana'

PASS.CAUS

sångan

say

i

APPL

ha'

EMP

they just told each other

14:50

anggen håyi nu nu malångu patgon-ña

anggen

if

håyi

who?

nu

OBL

nu

OBL

malångu

ill

patgon-ña

patgon

child

-ña

3S.POSS

whoever's child is sick

14:53

guaha ha na biåhi na bula, guaha na biåhi na "same family"

guaha na biåhi na

sometimes

bula

many

guaha na biåhi na

sometimes

"same family"

same family

sometimes there were many, sometimes from the same family

14:57

nu "two or three times" manmåfatto

nu

like

"two or three times"

two or three times

manmåfatto

man

AGR[PL]

få~

PROG

fåtto

come

like, they would come two or three times

14:58

Bula manmalångu

Bula

many

manmalångu

man

AGR[PL]

malångu

sick

many were sick

15:00

"so it's a word of mouth among the locals"

so it's a word of mouth among the locals

15:05

"li- like I said" nai si nanå-hu ma tungo' mås put i amot-ña

"li- like I said"

"li(ke) like I said"

li(ke) like I said

nai

y'know

si

UNM

nanå-hu

nåna

mother

-hu

1S.POSS

ma tungo'

ma

AGR[3PL]

tungo'

know

mås

more

put

for

i

DET.DEF

amot-ña

åmot

medicine

-ña

3S.POSS

li- like I said nai, my mother would know more of her medicine

15:09

si tatå-hu ma tungo' mås put i... i bidåda-ña ni i... kalan nu...

si

UNM

tatå-hu

tåta

father

-hu

1S.POSS

ma tungo'

ma

AGR[3PL]

tungo'

know

mås

more

put

for

i

DET.DEF

i

DET.DEF

bidåda-ña

då~

PROG

bida

action

-ña

3S.POSS

ni

that

i

DET.DEF

kalan

like

nu-

uh

my father knew more of ... of his actions... it was like...

15:15

guiya ha' la'mon ni tiningo'-ña

guiya

PRO.EMP[3S]

ha'

EMP

la'mon

responsible.for

ni

that

tiningo'-ña

tiningo'

knowledge

-ña

3S.POSS

he was left to himself with his knowledge

15:17

"so word of mouth"

so word of mouth

15:21

ah Pues sa' håfa mohon na na ti manmalago'

ah

Pues

so

sa'

because

håfa

what?

mohon

marker

na

COMP

na

COMP

ti

NEG

manmalago'

man

AGR[PL]

malago'

want

ah so then, why was is that they did not want

15:24

hågu pat i mañe'lu-mu para u saonao i suruhåna?

hågu

PRO.EMP[2S]

pat

or

i

DET.DEF

mañe'lu-mu

man

AGR[PL]

che'lu

sibling

-mu

1S.POSS

para

for

u

IRR.AGR[3S]

saonao

participate

i

DET.DEF

suruhåna

traditional.healer(f)

you or your siblings to be a part of the native healing?

15:29

Para guåhu nai annai annai annai

Para

for

guåhu

PRO.EMP[1S]

nai

y'know

annai

when

annai

when

annai

when

for me when when when

15:33

ahm

um

ahm

15:35

"I don't wanna be negative"

I don't wanna be negative

15:37

lao estotbao

lao

but

estotbao

bothersome

but it was bothersome

15:39

ayi ha estotba yu'

ayi

that

ha estotba

ha

AGR[3S]

estotba

bother

yu'

PRO[1S]

that is it bothered me

15:42

ahm para u guaha siha taotao gi guma'-måmi, sa' guaha na biåhi na ti manmåmakta ham esta guaha manmåfatto taotao

ahm

um

para

for

u

IRR.AGR[3S]

guaha

there.is

siha

PRO.EMP[3PL]

taotao

people

gi

LCL

guma'-måmi

guma'

house

-måmi

1PL.EXCL.POSS

sa'

because

guaha na biåhi na

sometimes

ti

NEG

manmåmakmata

man

AGR[PL]

ma~

PROG

makmåta

awake

ham

PRO[1PL.EXCL]

esta

already

guaha

there.is

manmåfatto

man

AGR[PL]

få~

PROG

fåtto

arrive

taotao

people

um for there to be people at our house, because there were times that we were not even awake and already people were arriving

15:48

ya guaha na biåhi na "late at night" na manåhanao

ya

and

guaha na biåhi na

sometimes

"late at night"

late at night

na

COMP

manåhanao

man

AGR[PL]

hå~

PROG

hånao

leave

and sometimes they would leave late at night

15:51

"so ah freedom around my house" guaha na biåhi na kalan "restricted" sa' guaha bisita

"so ah freedom around my house"

so ah freedom around my house

guaha na biåhi na

sometimes

kalan

like

"restricted"

restricted

sa'

because

guaha

there.is

bisita

visitor

so ah freedom around my house was sometimes like restricted because there were visitors

15:58

"so it never- it never"

so it never- it never

so it never -it never

16:00

"it never" ahm ti- ti ilek- "it never said, 'oh, I want to do that'"

"it never"

it never

ahm

um

ti-

ti

NEG

ti

NEG

ilek-

said

"it never said, 'oh, I want to do that'"

it never said, 'oh, I want to do that'

it never ahm i never said "it never said, 'oh I wanna do that"

16:07

ti- ti "joy" ti "jump for joy" -hu nai

ti-

ti

NEG

ti

NEG

"joy"

joy

ti

NEG

"jump for joy"

jump for joy

-hu

1S.POSS

nai

y'know

not not joy, it was not a jump for me, y'know

16:11

"for that so- because I did consider it kind of like an invasion of privacy for one"

for that so- because I did consider it kind of like an invasion of privacy for one

16:12

Ya-

like

and

16:16

Hunggan, hunggan

Hunggan

yes

hunggan

yes

yes, yes

16:17

"and um it's not that I didn't believe it because it-- I s-- I did see the results very very, very very positive results"

and um it's not that I didn't believe it because it-- I s-- I did see the results very very, very very positive results

and um it's not that I didn't believe it because it-- I s-- I did see the results, very, very, very very positive results

16:26

ya bula todu tiempo man-- man-- manma'agradesi si nanå-hu bidåda-ña

ya

and

bula

many

todu

all

tiempo

time

man--

man

AGR[PL]

man--

man

AGR[PL]

manma'agradesi

man

AGR[PL]

ma

AGR[3PL]

agradesi

appeciate

si

UNM

nanå-hu

nåna

mother

-hu

1S.POSS

bidåda-ña

da~

PROG

bida

action

-ña

3S.POSS

and there were many times they they they were appreciative of my mother and her actions

16:31

lao nu ahm

lao

but

nu

uh

ahm

um

but ahm

16:33

mås nai matulaika-- matulaika i tiempo guihi, no?

mås

more

nai

COMP

matulaika

ma

PASS

tulaika

change

matulaika

ma

PASS

tulaika

change

i

DET.DEF

tiempo

time

guihi

there

no

TAG

moreover, the times have changed, yeah?

16:37

"I'm-- I mean I wasn't a homebound, I wasn't destined to be a homebound"

I'm-- I mean I wasn't a homebound, I wasn't destined to be a homebound

16:42

"I was out"

I was out

16:43

"learning and y'know going beyond that"

learning and y'know going beyond that

learning and y'know beyond that

16:47

"frame of household" nai

"frame of household"

frame of household

nai

y'know

frame of household, y'know

16:50

pus um ti-- ti-- ti prisisu ti-- ti-- ti humålom gi kurason-hu

pus

pues

so

um

ti--

ti

NEG

ti--

ti

NEG

ti

NEG

prisisu

important

ti--

ti

NEG

ti--

ti

NEG

ti

NEG

humålom

<um>

AGR[3nPL]

hålom

enter

gi

LCL

kurason-hu

kurason

heart

-hu

1S.POSS

so then um it was not important, it did not not not enter my heart

16:54

"and like I said"

and like I said

16:55

nisita na un hongge ya nisita na un "dedicate" hao gi ayu na klåsen cho'cho'

nisita

necessary

na

COMP

un hongge

un

AGR[2S]

hongge

believe

ya

and

nisita

necessary

na

COMP

un "dedicate"

un

AGR[2S]

"dedicate"

dedicate

hao

PRO[2S]

gi

LCL

ayu

that

na

LNK

klåsen

klåsi

type

n

LNK

cho'cho'

work

you have to believe and you need to dedicate yourself to that type of work

16:59

hunggan

yes

17:01

parehu i mañe'lu-mu lokkue' i sinenten-ñiha?

parehu

same

i

DET.DEF

mañe'lu-mu

man

AGR[PL]

che'lu

sibling

-mu

2S.POSS

lokkue'

also

i

DET.DEF

sinenten-ñiha

<in>

NOM

siente

feel

-ñiha

3PL.POSS

your siblings also felt the same?

17:02

Dångkolo na "dedication", "yeah"

Dångkolo

big

na

LNK

"dedication"

dedication

"yeah"

yeah

it was a huge dedication yeah

17:06

"yeah" parehu ha' sinenten-ñiha

"yeah"

yeah

parehu

feel

ha'

EMP

sinenten-ñiha

<in>

NOM

siente

feel

-ñiha

3PL.POSS

yes they felt the same

17:07

"we were up, y'know, we were-- we were"

we were up, y'know, we were-- we were

we were up, y'knoe, we were-- we were

17:10

"going outside of the framework of that"

going outside of the framework of that

17:13

"that"

that

17:14

ahm

um

ahm

17:16

"profession"

profession

17:17

Hunggan

yes

17:19

ahm

um

ahm

17:22

"kay" nangga

"kay"

okay

nangga

wait

okay wait

17:24

"I put water, I put eye-droplets in my eye and I'm now I'm tearing"

I put water, I put eye-droplets in my eye and I'm now I'm tearing

I put water, I put eye droplets in my eye and now I'm tearing

17:31

"okay" kao kao guaha

"okay"

okay

kao

YNQ

kao

YNQ

guaha

there.is

okay is is there

17:34

David Ruskin, recorder, in background: "um, I was going to ask if you needed something for your eyes"

17:37

"No, I'll just use this little dry..."

No, I'll just use this little dry...

No, I'll use this little dry

17:39

"end"

end

17:41

"It..."

It...

it

17:42

umm

um

17:43

"when I put eye-droplets in for the retinas"

when I put eye-droplets in for the retinas

when I put eye droplets in for the redness

17:46

"then it creates"

then it creates

17:48

"tears"

tears

17:50

"it takes away the dryness"

it takes away the dryness

17:52

"so... okay, but I will have a drink"

so... okay, but I will have a drink

18:06

klåru para hågu?

klåru

clear

para

for

hågu

PRO.EMP[2S]

is it clear for you?

18:07

un komprende

un

AGR[2S]

komprende

understand

you understand?

18:09

un komprende nu

un komprende

un

AGR[2S]

komprende

understand

nu

uh

you understand, uh

18:10

DR, recorder, background, "Only... I'm still learning, but uh, parts are, some parts are coming through"

18:22

Request to adjust lavalier mic, and mic adjustment

18:28

"Am I echoing?"

Am I echoing?

am I echoing?

18:46

"kay" listo sinora? hunggan?

"kay"

okay

listo

ready

sinora

ma'am

hunggan

yes

Kay ready ma'am? Yes?

18:49

ah Kao guaha tiningo' pat fina'nå'gue na malago' na un tungo' på'go sa' guaha minaolek-ña?

ah

Kao

YNQ

guaha

there.is

tiningo'

knowledge

pat

or

fina'nå'gue

lesson

na

COMP

malago'

want

na

COMP

un tungo'

un

AGR[2S]

tungo'

know

på'go

now

sa'

because

guaha

there.is

minaolek-ña

minaolek

benefit

-ña

3S.POSS

ah is there knowledge or lessons that you want to know because of its benefits?

18:58

Månu i i suruhånu "and" suruhåna?

Månu

where?

i

DET.DEF

i

DET.DEF

suruhånu

traditional.healer(m)

"and"

and

suruhåna

traditional.healer(f)

From what, the traditional healing practice?

19:01

Kao guaha na malago' un tungo' på'go?

Kao

YNQ

guaha

there.is

na

COMP

malago'

want

un tungo'

un

AGR[2S]

tungo'

know

på'go

now

Are there things you want to know now?

19:03

"No", dai

"No"

No

dai

friend

No, friend

19:04

[chumåchalek] Tåya'?

tåya'

nothing

[laughing] nothing?

19:05

Åhe'

åhe'

no

19:07

"kay" Pues i , kao hågu un bisista suruhåna anggen malångu hao pat i--

"kay"

okay

pues

so

i

DET.DEF

kao

YNQ

hågu

PRO.EMP[2S]

un bisista

un

AGR[2S]

bisista

visit

suruhåna

traditional.healer(f)

anggen

if

malångu

ill

hao

PRO[2S]

pat

or

i

DET.DEF

Kay so then, do you visit the native healers when you are sick or the--

19:14

Åhe'

åhe'

no

19:14

Åhe'

åhe'

no

19:15

Nu mediku ha' nai

Nu

like

mediku

doctor

ha'

EMP

nai

y'know

like, just the doctor, y'know

19:17

Kao un tungo' otro na suruhåna yan suruhånu?

Kao

YNQ

un tungo'

un

AGR[2S]

tungo'

know

otro

other

na

LNK

suruhåna

traditional.healer(f)

yan

and

suruhånu

traditional.healer(m)

Do you know other native healers?

19:20

Guaha unu nu na palå'an si Rosalia Mateas fana'an

Guaha

there.is

unu

one

nu

uh

na

LNK

palå'an

palao'an

lady

si

UNM

Rosalia Mateas

fana'an

named

There is one uh lady, named Rosalia Mateas

19:24

Ma na'saonao ayu na palå'an gi FA-- ah

Ma

AGR[3PL]

na'saonao

include

ayu

that

na

LNK

palå'an

palao'an

lady

gi

LCL

FA--

(FestPAC)

FestPAC

ah

They made that lady join at FA-

19:27

FESPAC? PACFES?

FESPAC

FestPAC

PACFES

FestPAC

FESPAC? PACFES?

19:27

FestPAC = The Festival of Pacific Arts, a festival held every 4 years celebrating the cultures of the Pacific

19:27

mmhm

19:29

"She was the one" na kana'

"She was the one"

She was the one

na

COMP

kana'

almost

She was the one that almost

19:32

"She was the one that wanted to learn from my mother"

She was the one that wanted to learn from my mother

she was the one that wanted to learn from my mother

19:35

"And she'll always give my mother credit"

And she'll always give my mother credit

and she'll always give my mother credit

19:38

pus nu guiya nu na palå'an nu manå'amte fana'an na tiempo "and I think" nu manmanå'na'gue' nu åmot no?

pus nu

pues nu

so.then

guiya

PRO.EMP[3S]

nu

uh

na

LNK

palå'an

palao'an

lady

nu

OBL

manå'amte

man

ANTIP

å~

PROG

åmte

heal

fana'an

named

na

LNK

tiempo

time

"and I think"

and I think

nu

like

manmanå'na'gue'

man

AGR[PL]

man

ANTIP

få'na'gue'

teach

nu

OBL

åmot

medicine

no

TAG

so she was the lady that was healing at the time and I think that she like, taught medicine right?

19:45

"so" ayu na ayu ha' na palå'an ni tiningo'-hu ni' ha "follow" si nanå-hu ya- ya

"so"

so

ayu

that

na

LNK

ayu

that

ha'

EMP

na

LNK

palå'an

lady

ni

that

tiningo'-hu

tiningo'

knowledge

-hu

1S.POSS

ni'

OBL

ha "follow"

ha

AGR[3S]

"follow"

follow

si

UNM

nanå-hu

nåna

mother

-hu

1S.POSS

ya-

like

ya

and

so that, that is the only lady to my knowledge that followed my mother and

19:51

"like I said" todu i tiempo ha nåna'i "credit" si nanå-hu na fina'nå'gue nai

"like I said"

like I said

todu

all

i

DET.DEF

tiempo

time

ha

AGR[3S]

nåna'i

nå~

PROG

nå'i

give

"credit"

credit

si

UNM

nanå-hu

nåna

mother

-hu

1S.POSS

na

LNK

fina'nå'gue

<in>

NOM

fa'nå'gue

teach

nai

y'know

like I said all the time she gave credit to my mother's teaching, y'know?

19:55

sa' bula famagu'on-ña i palå'an

sa'

because

bula

many

famagu'on-ña

famagu'on

children

-ña

3S.POSS

i

DET.DEF

palå'an

lady

because that lady had many kids

19:56

ya nu [chumåchalek]

ya

and

nu

uh

and uh [laughing]

19:58

fihu manmalångu "when they were kids" no? "So she really believed in it" ya

fihu

frequently

manmalångu

man

AGR[PL]

malångu

ill

"when they were kids"

when they were kids

no

TAG

"So she really believed in it"

So she really believed in it

ya

and

often were sick when they were kids right? so she really believed in it and

20:01

"She wanted to be a suruhåna and so I-- she became a suruhåna. So I know of her, as one"

She wanted to be a suruhåna and so I-- she became a suruhåna. So I know of her, as one

she wanted to be a native healer and so I-- she became a native healer so I know of her as one

20:01

hunggan

yes

20:08

"that learned from my mother"

that learned from my mother

20:10

Taotao Guåhan gue'?

Taotao

person

Guåhan

Guam

gue'

PRO[3S]

She is a Guahan native?

20:11

Si-- mm si Rosalia? Ha'a.

Si--

Si

UNM

mm

si

UNM

Rosalia

Ha'a.

Ha'a

yeah

mm Rosalia? Yes.

20:14

Fejeran

20:15

"And she married a Mateo"

And she married a Mateo

and she married a Mateo

20:16

Fejeran

20:17

"I think" taotao su- taotao Tamuneng ha'

"I think"

I think

taotao

person

su-

(sumasaga)

living.in

taotao

person

Tamuneng

Tamuning

ha'

EMP

I think she is just from Tamuning

20:22

ah okay kao guaha

ah

okay

kao

YNQ

guaha

there.is

ah okay are there

20:25

ah

20:27

Nangga

wait

20:28

Håfa na båndan yo'åmte ni' ti ma såsangan gi me'nan-miyu

Håfa

what?

na

LNK

båndan

bånda

part

n

LNK

yo'åmte

native.healer

ni'

OBL

ti

NEG

ma såsangan

ma

AGR[3PL]

så~

PROG

sångan

say

gi

LCL

me'nan-miyu

me'nan

in.front.of

-miyu

2PL.POSS

Was there a part of healing that they did not say in front of you [and your siblings]?

20:36

Kalan sikretu? Kao-

Kalan

like

sikretu

secret

Kao-

Kao

YNQ

Like a secret? Do-

20:40

Kalan sikretu? Na na tiningo'-ñiha?

Kalan

like

sikretu

secret

Na

LNK

na

LNK

tiningo'-ñiha

tiningo'

knowledge

-ñiha

3PL.POSS

Like secret? Secret knowledge of theirs?

20:43

mmhm

20:44

Hunggan, ilek-ña guini "what parts were kept secret from"?

Hunggan

yes

ilek-ña

ilek-

say

-ña

3S.POSS

guini

here

"what parts were kept secret from"

what parts were kept secret from

Yes, it says here, "what parts were kept secret from?"

20:50

"in their trade?"

in their trade?

20:51

Hunggan, kao

Hunggan

yes

kao

YNQ

Yes, are

20:52

"As-- as" suruhånu "and" suruhåna?

"as-- as"

as-- as

suruhånu

traditional.healer(m)

"and"

and

suruhåna

traditional.healer(f)

as a native healer?

20:52

Hunggan

yes

20:55

Tåya'. "No, they-"

tåya'

nothing

"No, they--"

no, they

Nothing, no they

20:57

Tåya' tiningo'-mu-s?

Tåya'

there.isn't

tiningo'-mu-"s"

tiningo'

knowledge

-mu

2S.POSS

"-s"

's(?)

You don't know any?

20:58

Tåya' sikretu anggen tåya' nu

tåya'

there.isn't

sikretu

secret

anggen

if

tåya'

there.isn't

nu

uh

No secret if no

21:01

sa' ti ma sangåni hao no?

sa'

because

ti

NEG

ma sangåni

ma

AGR[3PL]

sangåni

tell

hao

PRO[2S]

no

yes

because they did not tell you right?

21:01

"no, no"

no, no

21:03

Tåya' "voodoo magic"

tåya'

there.isn't

"voodoo magic"

voodoo magic

There was no voodo magic

21:05

Tåya', "no".

tåya'

nothing

"no".

no"

nothing no

21:07

Si tatå-hu nai guaha na biåhi na nu nu ah

Si

UNM

tatå-hu

tåta

father

-hu

1S.POSS

nai

y'know

guaha na biåhi na

sometimes

nu

uh

nu

uh

ah

my father would, y'know, sometimes uh uh ah

21:10

ha lemlem ham ni ayi i anggen manåmte nai guaha na biåhi na

ha lemlem

ha

AGR[3S]

lemlem

surprise

ham

PRO[1PL.EXCL]

ni

OBL

ayi

that

i

DET.DEF

anggen

if

manåmte

man

ANTIP

åmte

heal

nai

y'know

guaha na biåhi na

sometimes

he would surprise us with when he heals sometimes

21:14

guaha na biåhi na nu ti--

guaha na biåhi na

sometimes

nu

uh

ti--

ti

NEG

sometimes uh n--

21:16

kalan "unbelievable" håfa bidå-ña "or whatever, you know"

kalan

like

"unbelievable"

unbelievable

håfa

what?

bidå-ña

bida

action

-ña

3S.POSS

"or whatever, you know"

or whatever, you know

as if what he did was unbelievable or whatever you know

21:20

"so"

so

21:21

"it-- it wasn't a secret, I mean he wasn't trying to do anything funny" lao

"it-- it wasn't a secret, I mean he wasn't trying to do anything funny"

it-- it wasn't a secret, I mean he wasn't trying to do anything funny

lao

but

it-- it wasn't a secret, I mean he wasn't trying to do anything funny but

21:25

guaha na biåhi na

guaha

there.is

na

LNK

biåhi

time

na

COMP

there were times that

21:26

"surprising" håfa nu yo-ña "result"

"surprising"

surprising

håfa

what?

nu

OBL

yo-ña

iyo-

thing

-ña

3S.POSS

"result"

result

the results were surprising

21:29

"but that's about it, just--"

but that's about it, just--

21:31

"but no secrets"

but no secrets

21:34

"Kay", ah på'go na tiempo, håfa mohon påtten yo'åmte siha?

"Kay"

okay

ah

på'go

now

na

LNK

tiempo

time

håfa

what?

mohon

CTRFCT

påtten

påtte

part

n

LNK

yo'åmte

native.healer

siha

PRO.EMP[3PL]

Kay, now a days, what may the native healers' parts be?

21:40

Gi gi kuminidåt, gi familia, yan taiguennao siha?

Gi

LCL

gi

LCL

kuminidåt

community

gi

LCL

familia

family

yan

and

taiguennao

like.that

siha

PRO.EMP[3PL]

In the community, in the family, et cetera?

21:43

Kao kao kao mohon siña u lå'la' gi mamaila' na tiempo?

Kao

YNQ

kao

YNQ

kao

YNQ

mohon

CTRFCT

siña

can

u

IRR.AGR[3S]

lå'la'

alive

gi

LCL

mamaila'

upcoming

na

LNK

tiempo

time

Would would would it be possible to survive in upcoming times?

21:49

Kao siempre låla'la' ha' i suruhå-- "you know" i i kinalamten i suruhåna?

Kao

YNQ

siempre

continue

låla'la'

lå~

PROG

lå'la'

alive

ha'

EMP

i

DET.DEF

suruhå-

suruhåna

traditional.healer(f)

"you know"

you know

i

DET.DEF

i

DET.DEF

kinalamten

action

i

DET.DEF

suruhåna

traditional.healer(f)

Can it just continue to survive you know the healing ways?

21:54

I- because

"I-- because"

I-- because

21:58

Bula esta manåmko' ya manmåtai

Bula

many

esta

already

manåmko'

man

AGR[PL]

åmko'

old

ya

and

manmåtai

man

AGR[PL]

måtai

die

many are old and have died

22:02

ya

and

22:03

nu

uh

22:05

nu ti meggai nu man--

nu

uh

ti

NEG

meggai

many

nu

OBL

man--

man

AGR[PL]

there are not many

22:08

manmalago'

man

AGR[PL]

malago'

want

that want

22:10

"it could be"

it could be

22:12

"it could be phasing out"

it could be phasing out

22:14

"and um"

and um

22:18

umm

um

22:19

sa' i pumalon, sa' bula suruhåna gi tiempon nanå-hu

sa'

because

i

DET.DEF

pumalon

others

sa'

because

bula

many

suruhåna

traditional.healer(f)

gi

LCL

tiempon

tiempo

time

n

LNK

nanå-hu

nåna

mother

-hu

1S.POSS

because the rest, because there were many healers in my mom's time

22:22

lámeggai ha' siha

lámeggai

quite.many

ha'

EMP

siha

PRO.EMP[3PL]

there were still fairly many

22:24

Yigo yan fa'na'an Barigåda "and"

Yigo

yan

and

fa'na'an

maybe

Barigåda

"and"

and

Yigo and maybe Barrigada and

22:27

lao fa'na'an, dai, todu manmåtai ayu siha na manåmko'

lao

but

fa'na'an

maybe

dai

friend

todu

all

manmåtai

man

AGR[PL]

måtai

die

ayu

that

siha

PRO.EMP[3PL]

na

OBL

manåmko'

man

PL

åmko'

old

however maybe all those elderly have passed

22:30

"including my own parents, of course"

including my own parents, of course

including my own parents of course

22:32

manhånao esta manmåtai

manhånao

man

AGR[PL]

hånao

leave

esta

already

manmåtai

man

AGR[PL]

måtai

die

they have left, they have already died

22:34

ya ti hu hungok, dai, tåya' hiningóngok-hu nu

ya

and

ti

NEG

hu hungok

hu

AGR[1S]

hungok

hear

dai

friend

tåya'

there.isn't

hiningóngok-hu

<in>

NOM

hungok

hear

~ngo

INTENS

-hu

1S.POSS

nu

OBL

and I did not hear, friend, there isn't a single one I heard that

22:37

nu mumalago'

nu

OBL

mumalago'

<um>

AGR[nPL]

malago'

want

that were interested

22:39

Ginen i i manhoben

Ginen

from

i

DET.DEF

i

DET.DEF

manhoben

man

PL

hoben

youth

from the youth

22:40

Ni ginen i manhoben "yeah"

Ni

that

ginen

from

i

DET.DEF

manhoben

man

PL

hoben

youth

"yeah"

yeah

from the youth yeah

22:42

"yeah"

yeah

22:43

Si Rosalia buente mås tumungo' ennao na kuestion.

Si

UNM

Rosalia

buente

may

mås

more

tumungo'

<um>

AGR[nPL]

tungo'

know

ennao

that

na

LNK

kuestion

question

Rosalia may know more of that question

22:49

ah, Kao guaha i parehu-ña i suruhåna yan i i mediku?

ah

Kao

YNQ

guaha

there.is

i

DET.DEF

parehu-ña

parehu

same

-ña

3S.POSS

i

DET.DEF

suruhåna

traditional.healer(f)

yan

and

i

DET.DEF

i

DET.DEF

mediku

doctor

ah, are there similarities between the native healers and doctors?

22:55

"well"

well

22:57

"they--"

they--

22:58

"they want to--"

they want to--

they want to

23:01

"they they they want to try their very very best"

they they they want to try their very very best

23:06

anggen, anggen ti fina'maolek i patgon gi fine'nana biåhi

anggen

if

anggen

if

ti

NEG

fina'maolek

<in>

PASS

fa'maolek

get.better

i

DET.DEF

patgon

child

gi

LCL

fine'nana

the.first

biåhi

time

if, if the first time the child did not get well

23:11

ilek-ña nanå-hu, 'konne' ta'lo mågi agupa', estaki ha li'e na séntaya' ha'

ilek-ña

ilek-

say

-ña

3S.POSS

nanå-hu

nåna

mother

-hu

1S.POSS

konne'

bring

ta'lo

again

mågi

here

agupa'

tomorrow

estaki

until

ha li'e

ha

AGR[3S]

li'e

see

na

LNK

séntaya'

sén

extremely

taya'

nothing

ha'

EMP

my mom would say, "bring them over again tomorrow" until she saw absolutely nothing

23:17

para u cho'gue

para

IRR

u cho'gue

u

IRR.ARG[3S]

cho'gue

do

she could do

23:19

"so it's, uh, determination"

so it's, uh, determination

23:21

na pa u mana'homlo' i patgon

na

OBL

pa

para

for

u mana'homlo'

u

IRR.ARG[3S]

ma

PASS

na'homlo'

heal

i

DET.DEF

patgon

child

to heal the child

23:23

"that's, that's the connection there" ni i i "modern" na mediku yan nu ahm

there"

"that's, that's the connection there"

that's, that's the connection there

ni

that

i

DET.DEF

i

DET.DEF

"modern"

modern

na

LNK

mediku

doctor

yan

and

nu

uh

ahm

um

that's, that's the connection there in the modern doctor and uh um

23:32

tåya' as nanå-hu na ha rinunsia gue'

tåya'

never

as

COMP

nanå-hu

nåna

mother

-hu

1S.POSS

na

COMP

ha rinunsia

ha

AGR[3S]

rinunsia

turn.down

gue'

PRO[3S]

my mother would not refuse herself

23:35

"they never turn anybody away"

they never turn anybody away

23:37

"so that's, that's another thing they--"

so that's, that's another thing they--

so that's that's another thing they--

23:39

Parehu

same

were similar

23:39

Ti siña nu ti-- ti todu tiempo "she'll just give it a try"

Ti

NEG

siña

can

nu

OBL

ti--

ti

NEG

ti

NEG

todu

all

tiempo

time

"she'll just give it a try"

she'll just give it a try

She couldn't- not all the time- she'll just give it a try

23:45

ya ahm

ya

and

ahm

um

and ahm

23:46

"so its ah its dedication" ni i

"so its ah its dedication"

so its ah its dedication

ni

that

i

DET.DEF

so its ah its dedication

23:48

pa u na'homlo' i taotao

pa

para

for

u na'homlo'

u

IRR.AGR[3S]

na'homlo'

heal

i

DET.DEF

taotao

people

for her to heal people

23:52

na mamperehu

na

OBL

mamperehu

man

PL

parehu

same

is similar

23:53

Okay ngai-- okay pues, i manmalångu na taotao, ngai'an para u falak i mediku ya ngai'an para u falak i suruhåna? Kao un tung--

Okay

okay

ngai--

ngai'an

when

okay

pues

so

i

DET.DEF

manmalångu

man

PL

malångu

sick

na

LNK

taotao

person

ngai'an

when

para

for

u falak

u

IRR.AGR[3S]

falak

go.to

i

DET.DEF

mediku

doctor

ya

and

ngai'an

when

para

for

u falak

u

IRR.AGR[3S]

falak

go.to

i

DET.DEF

suruhåna

traditional.healer(f)

Kao

YNQ

un tung--

un

AGR[2S]

tungo'

know

okay nai okay then, the sick people, when would they go to the doctor and when they would go to the native healer? Do you kn--

24:02

Ti hu--, ti hu tungo' lao nu anggen ilek-ta nai anggen nu

Ti

NEG

hu--

hu

AGR[1S]

ti

NEG

hu tungo'

hu

AGR[1S]

tungo'

know

lao

but

nu

like

anggen

if

ilek-ta

ilek-

said

-ta

1PL.INCL.POSS

nai

COMP

anggen

if

nu

like

I don't--, I don't know but, like, when we say when, like

24:07

anggen atdedet patgon

anggen

if

atdedet

de~

PROG

atdet

severe

patgon

child

if the child was becoming severely (ill)

24:09

umålok si nanå-hu nai guaha na biåhi ha faisen, 'esta un konne' pa i mediku? ya nu tåya' nu, ti inayuda?'

umålok

<um>

AGR[nPL]

ålok

say

si

UNM

nanå-hu

nåna

mother

-hu

1S.POSS

nai

OBL

guaha na biåhi

sometimes

ha faisen

ha

AGR[3S]

faisen

ask

esta

already

un

AGR[2S]

konne'

take

pa

para

to

i

DET.DEF

mediku

doctor

ya

and

nu

OBL

tåya'

nothing

nu

OBL

ti

NEG

inayuda

<in>

PASS

ayuda

help

my mom would sometimes ask, "did you take them to the doctor? And nothing (resolved), it didn't help?

24:17

lek-ña, 'unggan esta dai saina-hu hu chagi, hu chagi esta ya ti inayuda.' Pues lek-ña, 'okay maila' ya ta chagi'

lek-ña

ilek-

said

-ña

3S.POSS

unggan

hunggan

yes

esta

already

dai

dear

saina-hu

saina

elder

-hu

1S.POSS

hu chagi

hu

AGR[1S]

chagi

try

hu chagi

hu

AGR[1S]

chagi

try

esta

already

ya

and

ti

NEG

inayuda

<in>

PASS

inayuda

help

Pues

so

lek-ña

ilek-

said

-ña

3S.POSS

"okay"

okay

maila'

come

ya

and

ta

AGR[1PL.INCL]

chagi

try

they said, "yes my dear elder, I tried, I tried already and it didn't help." So she would say, "okay, come and we'll try."

24:25

"so, so" guaha na biåhi na ha konne' ha' nai tåya' kuestion

"so, so"

so, so

guaha na biåhi na

there.were.times.that

ha konne'

ha

AGR[3S]

konne'

take

ha'

EMP

nai

OBL

tåya'

there.isn't

kuestion

question

so so there were times, y'know, that without question she would take them

24:29

lao guaha na biåhi na ha faisen, "Kao esta nu un konne' pa i mediku?"

lao

but

guaha na biåhi na

there.were.times.that

ha faisen

ha

AGR[3S]

faisen

ask

Kao

YNQ

esta

already

nu

OBL

un

AGR[2S]

konne'

take

pa

para

to

i

DET.DEF

mediku

but there were also times that she would ask, "Have you already brought them to the doctor?"

24:34

Pues i i manmalångu siha, kao kao manmalak i mediku fine'nana pues mambisita i suruhånu?

Pues

so

i

DET.DEF

i

DET.DEF

manmalångu

man

PL

malångu

sick

siha

PRO.EMP[3PL]

kao

YNQ

kao

YNQ

manmalak

man

AGR[PL]

malak

go

i

DET.DEF

mediku

doctor

fine'nana

first

pues

then

mambisita

man

AGR[PL]

bisita

visit

i

DET.DEF

suruhånu

traditional.healer(m)

so then those who were sick did they go to the doctor first then go visit the native healer?

24:40

"it depends"

it depends

24:41

"I- I don't really know, you know, their", håfa "their"

"I-- I don't really know, you know, their"

I-- I don't really know, you know, their

håfa

what

"their"

their

I-- I don't really know their... what their

24:45

"main ah main steps" lao

"main ah main steps"

main ah main steps

lao

but

main ah main steps but

24:48

"its all kinds" ti-

"its all kinds"

its all kinds

ti

NEG

its all kinds it wasn't

24:51

Kao, kao guaha ahm ma susedi na ti siña ma homlo' i taotao?

Kao

YNQ

kao

YNQ

guaha

there.is

ahm

um

ma

AGR[3PL]

susedi

happen

na

COMP

ti

NEG

siña

can

ma homlo'

ma

AGR[3PL]

homlo'

heal

i

DET.DEF

taotao

person

Were there experiences where they couldn't heal the person?

24:56

ya pues pa u sångan, "'okay', sigi para i mediku sa' ti siña hu ayuda hao"

ya

and

pues

then

pa

para

IRR

u sångan

u

IRR.AGR[3S]

sångan

say

"okay"

okay

sigi

proceed

para

to

i

DET.DEF

mediku

doctor

sa'

because

ti

NEG

siña

can

hu ayuda

hu

AGR[1S]

ayuda

help

hao

PRO[2S]

and then would say, "okay go to the doctor because I cannot help you."?

25:01

"Oh, I'm sure maybe yeah, I'm sure, maybe there is an example of that"

Oh, I'm sure maybe yeah, I'm sure, maybe there is an example of that

oh I am sure yeah maybe, I am sure, maybe there is an example of that

25:01

Kao guaha

Kao

YNQ

guaha

there.is

Were there

25:06

"I mean it's not always a guarantee" nai?

"I mean it's not always a guarantee"

I mean it's not always a guarantee

nai

y'know

I mean it's not always a guarantee, y'know?

25:10

"Okay" ah pues

"Okay"

Okay

ah

pues

so

Okay so then

25:12

yanggen påtgon hao, kao kao un ayúyuda si nanå-hu pat si tatå-mu?

yanggen

if

påtgon

child

hao

PRO[2S]

kao

YNQ

kao

YNQ

un ayúyuda

un

AGR[2S]

yu~

PROG

ayuda

help

si

UNM

nanå-hu

nåna

mother

-hu

1S.POSS

pat

or

si

UNM

tatå-mu

tåta

father

-mu

2S.POSS

When you were a child, did you help your mom or dad?

25:16

"No"

No

25:16

Åhe'

no

25:17

U-- unggan ni ayi para ahm

U--

hunggan

yes

unggan

hunggan

yes

ni

COMP

ayi

that

para

for

ahm

um

yes for when

25:21

para bai in chuli'i gue' ni i amot

para

FUT

bai

FUT

in chuli'i

in

AGR[1PL.EXCL]

chule'

bring

i

APPL

gue'

PRO[3S]

ni

that

i

DET.DEF

åmot

medicine

we would get the medicine

25:23

mm-hm

mm hm

25:24

"mostly my brothers did that for her"

mostly my brothers did that for her

25:26

sa' manhåhanao huyong gi halom tåno' "or"

sa'

because

manhåhanao

man

AGR[PL]

hå~

PROG

hånao

go

huyong

go.out

gi

LCL

halom tåno'

hålom tåno'

jungle

"or"

or

because they would go into the jungle or

25:29

para i puntan tåsi, para u ma chule' este siha na klåsen åmot

para

for

i

DET.DEF

puntan

punta

tip***

n

LNK

tåsi

ocean

para

for

u ma chule'

u ma

IRR.AGR[3PL]

chule'

get

este

this.(demonstrative)

siha

PRO.EMP[3PL]

na

LNK

klåsen

klåsi

kind

n

LNK

åmot

medicine

to the middle*** of the ocean to get these types of medicine

25:34

"and... and really that's about it"

and... and really that's about it

25:37

anggen-- yan guaha na biåhi na anggen ha nisita na pa u ma lommok guaha na biåhi na ha faisen ham guaha na biåhi na ha faisen ham para bai en lommok

anggen

if

yan

and

guaha na biåhi na

sometimes

anggen

if

ha nisita

ha

AGR[3S]

nisita

need

na

COMP

pa

para

for

u ma lommok

u ma

IRR.AGR[3PL]

lommok

pulverize

guaha na biåhi na

sometimes

ha faisen

ha

IRR.AGR[3PL]

faisen

ask

ham

PRO[1PL.EXCL]

guaha na biåhi na

sometimes

ha faisen

ha

AGR[3S]

faisen

ask

ham

PRO[1PL.EXCL]

para

for

bai

FUT

en lommok

en

AGR[2PL]

lommok

pulverize

if-- and sometimes if she needed it to be hand pounded, sometimes she asked us, sometimes she asked us to hand pound it

25:40

Hågu un ayúyuda?

Hågu

PRO.EMP[2S]

un ayúyuda

un

AGR[2S]

yu~

PROG

ayuda

help

you were helping?

25:43

lao pinat siha ha' mås chumocho'gue ennao

lao

but

pinat

mostly

siha

PRO.EMP[3PL]

ha'

EMP

mås

more

chumocho'gue

<um>

INF

cho~

PROG

cho'gue

do

ennao

that

but more often they were just the ones to be doing that

25:45

si tatå-hu guiya ha' umu'uyi i amot-ña

si

UNM

tatå-hu

tåta

father

-hu

1S.POSS

guiya

PRO.EMP[3S]

ha'

EMP

umu'uyi

<um>

AGR[nPL]

u~

PROG

uyi

do

i

DET.DEF

amot-ña

åmot

medicine

-ña

3S.POSS

my dad, it was really just him doing his medicine

25:48

ha lólommok i amot-ña

ha

AGR[3S]

lólommok

lo~

PROG

lommok

pulverize

i

DET.DEF

amot-ña

åmot

medicine

-ña

3S.POSS

he hand pounded his medicine

25:50

si nanå-hu

si

UNM

nanå-hu

nåna

mother

-hu

1S.POSS

my mom

25:52

nu anggen ha nisita nu åmot nu mámaisen para u

nu

like

anggen

if

ha

AGR[3S]

nisita

need

nu

OBL

åmot

medicine

nu

like

mámaisen

man

ANTIP

faisen

ask

para

for

u

IRR.AGR[3S]

if she needed medicine she would ask

25:56

guaha na biåhi na ha faisen i "patient"

guaha na biåhi na

sometimes

ha faisen

ha

AGR[3S]

faisen

ask

i

DET.DEF

"patient"

patient

sometimes she would ask the patient

25:58

i familian i "patient" pau

i

DET.DEF

familian

familia

family

n

LNK

i

DET.DEF

"patient"

patient

pau

para u

IRR.AGR[3S]

the patient's family to

26:00

hånao ya ma chule' åmot siha

hånao

go

ya

and

ma chule'

ma

AGR[3PL]

chule'

get

åmot

medicine

siha

PL

go and get the medicines

26:03

ya "or" guaha na biåhi na ha faisen ayi i che'lu-hu lao pinat i familia ha fáfaisen, "hånao, låhi-hu, ya un chule' ayi i amot gi i taigi "and" taigi

ya

and

"or"

or

guaha na biåhi na

sometimes

ha faisen

ha

AGR[3S]

faisen

ask

ayi

that

i

DET.DEF

che'lu-hu

che'lu

sibling

-hu

1S.POSS

lao

but

pinat

mostly

i

DET.DEF

familia

family

ha

AGR[3S]

fáfaisen

fa~

PROG

faisen

ask

hånao

go

låhi-hu

låhi

son

-hu

1S.POSS

ya

and

un chule'

un

AGR[2S]

chule'

get

ayi

that

i

DET.DEF

åmot

medicine

gi

LCL

i

DET.DEF

taigi

taiguihi

like.that

"and"

and

taigi

taiguihi

like.that

and or sometimes she would ask my sibling but mostly the families she would ask, "go my son and get the medicine, etc."

26:03

taigi---short for taiguihi

26:11

anggen ha tungo' i taotao

anggen

if

ha tungo'

ha

AGR[3S]

tungo'

know

i

DET.DEF

taotao

person

if she knew the person

26:13

anggen ti ha tungo ah "then" ah unu na che'lu

anggen

if

ti

NEG

ha tungo

ha

AGR[3S]

tungo

know

ah

"then"

then

ah

unu

one

na

LNK

che'lu

sibling

if she didn't know them, ah then ah one of my sibling

26:19

ah

26:20

ah, kao un tungo' håfa bidan-ñíñiha åntes måtto i taotao, åntes di u måtto i taotao?

ah

kao

YNQ

un tungo'

un

AGR[2S]

tungo'

know

håfa

what?

bidan-ñíñiha

bida

event

-ñiha

3PL.POSS

~ñi

PROG

åntes

before

måtto

arrive

i

DET.DEF

taotao

person

åntes di

before

u måtto

u

IRR.AGR[3S]

måtto

arrive

i

DET.DEF

taotao

person

Do you know what they were doing before the people came over, before a person would come over?

26:25

"No, nothing special"

No, nothing special

26:26

Tåya', tåya' klåsen para u ma pripåra

Tåya'

nothing

tåya'

there.isn't

klåsen

klåsi

type

n

LNK

para

for

u ma pripåra

u ma

IRR.AGR[3PL]

pripåra

prepare

None, no types for them to prepare

26:30

åhe'

no

26:33

ah

26:37

kay

okay

kay

26:39

Ilek-ña guini, Kao manlálasa hao? Lao ilek-mu åhe', noh?

Ilek-ña

ilek

say

-ña

3S.POSS

guini

here

kao

YNQ

manlálasa

man

ANTIP

la~

PROG

lasa

massage

hao

PRO[2S]

lao

but

ilek-mu

ilek

say

-mu

1S.POSS

åhe'

no

noh

TAG

Is says here do you massage but you said no right?

26:43

Kay, kao un tungo' håyi mås makkat para u ma åmte?

Kay

okay

kao

YNQ

un tungo'

un

AGR[2S]

tungo'

know

håyi

who?

mås

most

makkat

difficult

para

for

u ma åmte

u ma

IRR.AGR[3PL]

åmte

heal

Kay, do you know who is the most difficult to heal?

26:47

Håfa na klåsen chetnot, chetnot pat taotao "yeah"?

Håfa

what?

na

LNK

klåsen

klåsi

type

n

LNK

chetnot

wound

chetnot

wound

pat

or

taotao

person

"yeah"

yeah

What type of wound, injury or person yeah?

26:47

Håfa na klåsen "patient"?

Håfa

what?

na

LNK

klåsen

klåsi

type

n

LNK

"patient"

patient

What type of patient?

26:51

"not really, no"

not really, no

26:53

"i-- its just kind of a routine"

i-- its just kind of a routine

26:58

Kao un un tungo' håfa na klåsen chetnot, m-- uh makkat para u åmte?

Kao

YNQ

un

AGR[2S]

un tungo'

un

AGR[2S]

tungo'

know

håfa

what?

na

LNK

klåsen

klåsi

type

n

LNK

chetnot

wound

m--

makkat

heavy

uh

makkat

heavy

para

for

u åmte

u

IRR.AGR[3S]

åmte

heal

Do you know what type of wound, d-- uh wound that was difficult to heal?

27:02

"not really"

not really

27:03

"no"

no

27:05

ayu ha' i sénmalangu ni' guaha na biåhi i patgon chatta humåhagong iyo-ña "colic"

ayu

that

ha'

EMP

i

DET.DEF

sénmalangu

sen

extremely

malangu

sick

ni'

OBL

guaha na biåhi

sometimes

i

DET.DEF

patgon

child

chatta

barely

humåhagong

<um>

AGR[nPL]

ha~

PROG

hågong

breathe

iyo-ña

iyo-

possession

-ña

3S.POSS

"colic"

colic

only the child sometimes that couldn't breathe due to its colic

27:10

ayu mås makkat ma--

ayu

that

mås

most

makkat

difficult

ma--

makkat

difficult

those were the most difficult

27:12

sa' nisita na para u-- u guesgues huyong ni kalulot-ña nai

sa'

because

nisita

need

na

COMP

para

for

u

IRR.AGR[3S]

u guesgues

u

IRR.AGR[3S]

guesgues

scrape

huyong

out

ni

that

kalulot-ña

kålulot

finger

-ña

3S.POSS

nai

y'know

because it was necessary to... to scub out with her finger, y'know

27:16

makkat ayu ya ha na'muta' i patgon ha na'muta'

makkat

heavy

ayu

that

ya

and

ha na'muta'

ha

AGR[3S]

na'

CAUS

muta'

vomit

i

DET.DEF

patgon

child

ha na'muta'

ha

AGR[3S]

na'

CAUS

muta'

vomit

that was difficult, and she made the child vomit, she made the child the vomit

27:20

"take it out"

take it out

27:24

ah

27:25

Håfa hinasso-mu nu i amot yan i yo'åmte ginen sanlågu

Håfa

what?

hinasso-mu

hinasso

thought

-mu

2S.POSS

nu

OBL

i

DET.DEF

amot

åmot

medicine

yan

and

i

DET.DEF

yo'åmte

traditional.healer

ginen

from

sanlågu

outside

What are your thoughts on the medicine and healers from outside?

27:32

"I don't know"

I don't know

27:33

"no I don't-- I don't understand"

no I don't-- I don't understand

27:35

Uh, "kay", gi fino' English "what are your thoughts of the medicine and doctors who aren't from here?"

Uh

"kay"

kay

gi

LCL

fino'

language

English

"what are your thoughts of the medicine and doctors who aren't from here?"

what are your thoughts of the medicine and doctors who aren't from here?

Uh, kay, in English, "what are your thoughts of the medicine and doctors who aren't from here?"

27:45

mmm

mm

27:47

"I don't know if I can give an opinion on that"

I don't know if I can give an opinion on that

27:50

"kay"

kay

27:51

maolek ha'

okay

its okay

27:52

ah kao guaha finiho' siha ni ti un húhungok på'go?

ah

kao

YNQ

guaha

there.is

finiho'

words

siha

PRO.EMP[3PL]

ni

that

ti

NEG

un húhungok

un

AGR[2S]

hu~

PROG

hungok

hear

på'go

now

ah are there words that you don't hear today?

27:57

kalan fi-- fino' suruhåna fino' suruhånu na klåsen palåbra

kalan

like

fi--

fino'

language

fino'

language

suruhåna

traditional.healer(f)

fino'

language

suruhånu

traditional.healer(m)

na

LNK

klåsen

klåsi

type

n

LNK

palåbra

word

like wo-- suruhåna-type-words or suruhånu-type-words

28:05

ti ti

ti

NEG

ti

NEG

not not

28:06

ti

NEG

not

28:07

"well"

well

28:08

ti hu spíspiha palåbra, "I mean I don't know"

ti

NEG

hu spíspiha

hu

AGR[1S]

spi~

PROG

spiha

search

palåbra

word

"I mean I don't know"

I mean I don't know

I don't search for words, I mean I don't know

28:11

Kao gua-- kao guaha håfa?

kao

whether

gua-

guaha

there.is

kao

whether

guaha

there.is

håfa

what?

Are there-- are there what?

28:14

Finiho' siha

finiho'

word

siha

PL

words

28:16

kao guaha kuentos

kao

YNQ

guaha

there.is

kuentos

speech

Is there talk

28:17

mmhm klås-- klåsen kuentos

mmhm

klås--

klåsi

type

n

LNK

klåsin

type

n

LNK

kuentos

speech

mmhm typ-- types of talk

28:17

hu hungok put put nu suruhåna?

hu hungok

hu

AGR[1S]

hungok

hear

put

for

put

for

nu

uh

suruhåna

traditional.healer(f)

I heard about about uh native healers?

28:20

mmhm

28:21

Ni ti un húhungok på'go

Ni

that

ti

NEG

un húhungok

un

AGR[2S]

hu

PROG~

hungok

hear

på'go

today

that you don't hear today

28:23

oh

28:24

kao guaha kuentos-ñiha?

kao

YNQ

guaha

there.is

kuentos-ñiha

kuentos

language

-ñiha

3PL.POSS

Did they have a language?

28:25

mmhm

28:26

Ni ti hu húhungok på'go?

Ni

which

ti

NEG

hu húhungok

hu

AGR[1S]

hu~

PROG

hungok

hear

på'go

today

That I don't hear today?

28:31

"No"

No

no

28:32

"I don't have a-- I don't have a-- I can't answer that question 'cause I'm not in contact with suruhåna"

I don't have a-- I don't have a-- I can't answer that question 'cause I'm not in contact with suruhåna

I don't have a-- I don't have a -- I can't answer that question 'cause I'm not in contact with native healers

28:39

Kao un tungo' ah

Kao

YNQ

un tungo'

un

AGR[2S]

tungo'

know

ah

Do you know ah

28:41

klåsen kuentos para i manlálasa ha' na bånda?

klåsen

klåsi

type

n

LNK

kuentos

speech

para

for

i

DET.DEF

manlálasa

man

ANTIP

la~

PROG

lasa

massage

ha'

EMP

na

LNK

bånda

side

types of talk for just the massaging side?

28:46

Tåya' esta fa'na'an manlálasa na bånda

Tåya'

there.isn't

esta

is

fa'na'an

probably

manlálasa

man

ANTIP

la~

PROG

lasa

massage

na

LNK

bånda

side

That's not a thing, probably, massaging sides

28:49

"Guam, I--" ti

"Guam, I--"

Guam, I

ti

NEG

Guam, I-- no

28:51

ti-- ti meggai esta fa'na'an suruhåna nai ayi i manlálasa

ti

NEG

ti

NEG

meggai

many

esta

are

fa'na'an

maybe

suruhåna

traditional.healer(f)

nai

OBL

ayi

that

i

DET.DEF

manlálasa

man

ANTIP

la~

PROG

lasa

massage

maybe there are not many native healers massaging

28:54

mmhm

28:56

Kao kao parehu todu klåsen lasa?

Kao

YNQ

kao

YNQ

parehu

same

todu

all

klåsen

klåsi

type

n

LNK

lasa

massage

Are are all massaging the same?

29:01

"that I know of, yeah"

that I know of, yeah

that I know of yeah

29:03

"y-- for my mother, for my mother only"

y-- for my mother, for my mother only

29:06

i "tension" siha

i

DET.DEF

"tension"

tension

siha

PL

the tensions

29:07

anggen anggen ke'yao hao anggen nu

anggen

if

anggen

if

ke'yao

limp

hao

PRO[2S]

anggen

if

nu

like

if if you have a limp when, like

29:10

"if you have a sprain"

if you have a sprain

29:14

"um, she'll--"

um, she'll--

um she'll

29:16

"she'll ma-- massage" i i i i "muscle around it"

"she'll ma-- massage"

she'll ma-- massage

i

DET.DEF

i

DET.DEF

i

DET.DEF

i

DET.DEF

"muscle around it"

muscle around it

she'll massage the the the the muscle around it

29:21

"and ah"

and ah

29:22

"or" i "tension" nai bula ayi i mantension guini mågi

"or"

or

i

DET.DEF

"tension"

tension

nai

y'know

bula

much

ayi

that

i

DET.DEF

mantension

man

PL

"tension"

tension

guini mågi

over.here

or tension, they were tense over here

29:25

"she'll... just regular massaging like any other masseur"

she'll... just regular massaging like any other masseur

she'll... just regular massaging like any othe masseur

29:29

"she'll..."

she'll...

she'll

29:31

"massage like that"

massage like that

29:33

"and so"

and so

29:35

ayu siha "masseur" ni manmachócho'cho' på'go

ayu

that

siha

PRO.EMP[3PL]

"masseur"

masseur

ni

OBL

manmachócho'cho'

man

AGR[PL]

ma

PASS

cho~

PROG

cho'cho'

work

på'go

today

those masseurs that are working today

29:38

"I think they do the same thing" nai ayi i ha lasa hao på'go ni

"I think they do the same thing"

I think they do the same thing

nai

y'know

ayi

that

i

DET.DEF

ha lasa

ha

AGR[3S]

lasa

massage

hao

PRO[2S]

på'go

today

ni

OBL

I think they do the same thing, y'know, that they massage you today

29:42

iyo-mu "tension" iyo-mu "muscle"

iyo-mu

iyo-

possession

-mu

2S.POSS

"tension"

tension

iyo-mu

iyo-

possession

-mu

2S.POSS

"muscle"

muscle

yout tension, your muscle

29:48

"okay, let me--"

okay, let me--

29:49

Kao guaha nå'an ånti ni un tungo' ginen mañaina-mu?

Kao

YNQ

guaha

there.is

nå'an

name

ånti

spirit

ni

that

un tungo'

un

AGR[2S]

tungo'

know

ginen

from

mañaina-mu

man

PL

saina

elder

-mu

2S.POSS

Are there spirit names that you knew from your parents?

29:54

ånti

spirit

29:55

kalan aniti, espiritu

kalan

like

aniti

spirit

espiritu

spirit

like spirit, spirit

29:58

kalan taiguennao

kalan

like

taiguennao

like.that

like that

30:01

ahm

30:03

hunggan nai guaha na biåhi na ma sångan noh na guaha kalan guaha na kalan guaha iyo-ña nai "powers" noh?

hunggan

yes

nai

COMP

guaha na biåhi na

there.were.times.that

ma sångan

ma

AGR[3PL]

sångan

say

noh

TAG

na

OBL

guaha

there.is

kalan

like

guaha

there.is

na

OBL

kalan

like

guaha

there.is

iyo-ña

iyo-

possession

-ña

3S.POSS

nai

OBL

"powers"

powers

noh

TAG

Yes there were times they would say, right?, that there's like, there's like, there's like powers that they have, yeah?

30:04

na guaha ga'chong

na

OBL

guaha

there.is

ga'chong

friend

they have a friend

30:07

guaha na biåhi na kalan ma sångan ayu

guaha na biåhi na

sometimes

kalan

like

ma sångan

ma

AGR[3PL]

sångan

say

ayu

that

sometimes, like, they'd say that

30:09

"and" ah si tatå-hu nai

"and"

and

ah

si

UNM

tatå-hu

tåta

father

-hu

1S.POSS

nai

y'know

and ah my dad nai

30:12

guaha na biåhi na kalan masångan, "kalan guaha dai ayu na bihu nu iyo-ña nu spiritu" nai

guaha na biåhi na

sometimes

kalan

like

masångan

ma

PASS

sångan

say

kalan

like

guaha

there.is

dai

friend

ayu

that

na

LNK

bihu

old

nu

OBL

iyo-ña

iyo-

possession

-ña

3S.POSS

nu

OBL

spiritu

spirit

nai

y'know

sometimes like he'd say, "it's like," dear, "that that old man has a spirit", y'know?

30:19

"and y'know it's, it's a, it's"

and y'know it's, it's a, it's

30:21

"kind of like"

kind of like

30:22

"um"

um

30:25

"kind of like" hunggan kalan guaha yon-ñiha nai nu

"kind of like"

kind of like

hunggan

yes

kalan

like

guaha

there.is

yon-ñiha

iyo-

possession

-ñiha

3PL.POSS

nai

OBL

nu

uh

kind of like, yes, like they had their, uh

30:28

"healing power"

healing power

30:29

Hunggan

yes

30:30

Kalan guaha iyo-ña "healing power"

Kalan

like

guaha

there.is

iyo-ña

iyo-

possession

-ña

3S.POSS

"healing power"

healing power

Like they have their healing power

30:32

"so"

so

30:33

siña un ågang ayu spiritu anggen anggen malangu'on "freely"

siña

can

un ågang

un

AGR[2S]

ågang

summon

ayu

that

spiritu

spirit

anggen

when

anggen

when

malangu'on

malangu

sick

on

-able

"freely"

freely

you can freely call that spirit when, when you get sick, freely

30:38

lao nu ahm

lao

but

nu

uh

ahm

um

but uh ahm

30:40

kalan guaha nai iyon-ñiha "powers" nai siña manmanåmte ya siña ma na'homlo', kalan dångkolo yu na

kalan

like

guaha

there.is

nai

OBL

iyon-ñiha

iyo-

possession

-ñiha

3S.POSS

"powers"

powers

nai

COMP

siña

can

manmanåmte

man

AGR[PL]

man

ANTIP

åmte

treat

ya

and

siña

can

ma na'homlo'

ma

AGR[3PL]

na'homlo'

heal

kalan

like

dångkolo

big

yu

iyo-

possession

na

COMP

Its like they had powers that they could treat and could heal, like that was a big thing that...

30:47

"you know"

you know

30:48

Kao kao kao guaha na ilek-ñiha na ma kuentútusi i ånte pat i taotaomo'na?

Kao

YNQ

kao

YNQ

kao

YNQ

guaha na

sometimes (there.is COMP)

ilek-ñiha

ilek-

say

-ñiha

3S.POSS

na

COMP

ma kuentútusi

ma

AGR[3PL]

tu~

PROG

kuentusi

speak.to

i

DET.DEF

ånte

spirit

pat

or

i

DET.DEF

taotaomo'na

ancestral.spirits

Did did did they sometimes say that they spoke to spirits or ancestors?

30:48

nis-- "yeah"

nis--

(nisisåriu)

necessry

"yeah"

yeah

nes-- yeah

30:54

"oh no, ta--, no they don't have, they don't have a--"

"oh no"

oh no

ta--

tåya'

there.isn't

"no they don't have, they don't have a--"

no they don't have, they don't have a--

oh no, never-- no they don't have, they don't have a--

30:57

Tåya' ni ayi i ma konsusult na, nu tåya' ni ayu

Tåya'

there.isn't

ni

COMP

ayi

that

i

DET.DEF

ma konsusult

ma

AGR[3PL]

su~

PROG

"consult"

consult

na

uh

nu

uh

tåya' ni

none.at.all

ayu

that

They never consulted [with those spirits], none of that

31:02

tåya' ni ayu, ayi kalan iyon-ñiha ha' nu

tåya' ni

none.at.all

ayu

that

ayi

that

kalan

like

iyon-ñiha

iyo-

possession

-ñiha

3PL.POSS

ha'

EMP

nu

uh

none of that, like that only just their

31:05

"aura"

aura

31:06

"you know" ni ayi i

"you know"

you know

ni

COMP

ayi

that

i

DET.DEF

you know that

31:08

iyon-ñiha ha' nai ni

iyon-ñiha

iyo-

possession

-ñiha

3PL.POSS

ha'

EMP

nai

y'know

ni

uh

their own

31:10

kalan ma gai spiritu

kalan

like

ma

AGR[3PL]

gai

possess

spiritu

spirit

like they have spirit

31:11

kao kao ilek-ña siña manli'e'?

kao

YNQ

kao

YNQ

ilek-ña

ilek-

say

-ña

3S.POSS

siña

can

manli'e'

man

AGR[PL]

li'e'

see

Did did they say that they could see?

31:13

"no"

no

31:14

tåya' ni ennao tåya' n--

tåya'

there.isn't

ni

that

ennao

that

tåya'

there.isn't

n--

ni

that

none of that, none

31:15

"there's no magic"

there's no magic

31:16

[chumåchalek]

[laughing]

31:18

"there's no voodoo"

there's no voodoo

31:19

"it's just really just a willingness to do a-- to t-- to have, y'know, the power to heal"

it's just really just a willingness to do a-- to t-- to have, y'know, the power to heal

31:26

"Kay", k-- kao guaha uh tiempo pat såkkan

"Kay"

Kay

k-

kao

YNQ

kao

YNQ

guaha

there.is

uh

tiempo

time

pat

or

såkkan

year

Kay, w-- was there uh... a time or year

31:30

ni ma chocho'gue uh

ni

COMP

ma chocho'gue

ma

AGR[3PL]

cho~

PROG

cho'gue

do

uh

that they would work uh

31:35

kalan kao guaha tiempo gi såkkan ni ni' ma-- pa ma cho'gue

kalan

like

kao

YNQ

guaha

there.is

tiempo

time

gi

LCL

såkkan

year

ni

COMP

ni'

COMP

ma

AGR[3PL]

pa

para

IRR

ma cho'gue

ma

AGR[3PL]

cho'gue

do

like were there certain times in the year that-- that they would do

31:39

espesiåt na kinalamten

espesiåt

special

na

LNK

kinalamten

activity

special activities

31:41

ni ni' iyo-ña "powers"?

ni

OBL

ni'

OBL

iyo-ña

iyo-

possession

-ña

3S.POSS

"powers"

powers

of of their powers?

31:42

ni iyon-ña "powers" ni pa u fanmanhomlo'

ni

that

iyon-ña

iyo-

possession

-ña

3S.POSS

"powers"

powers

ni

that

pa u

para u

IRR.AGR[3S]

fanmanhomlo'

fan

INF

man

ANTIP

homlo'

heal

of their powers to heal

31:45

"no"

no

31:46

"it's kinda like a job everyday"

it's kinda like a job everyday

it's kind of like a job everyday

31:49

"yeah"

yeah

31:50

ayi "you know", ma-- ma á'atan i taotao ma li'e' håfa ha nisisita

ayi

that

"you know"

you know

ma--

ma

AGR[3PL]

ma á'atan

ma

AGR[3PL]

a~

PROG

atan

look.at

i

DET.DEF

taotao

person

ma li'e'

ma

AGR[3PL]

li'e'

see

håfa

what

ha nisisita

ha

AGR[3S]

nisisita

need

that you know they looked at the person, saw what they needed

31:56

pes ma

pes

pues

then

ma

AGR[3PL]

then they

31:57

cho'gue håfa ma chócho'gue "yeah" lao

cho'gue

do

håfa

what

ma chócho'gue

ma

AGR[3PL]

cho~

PROG

cho'gue

do

"yeah"

yeah

lao

but

did what they continued to do

32:00

"year round, year round" na manmanå'amte

"year round, year round"

year round, year round

na

COMP

manmanå'amte

man

AGR[PL]

man

ANTIP

a~

PROG

åmte

heal

year round, year round they would be healing

32:06

ah

32:07

kay fa'na'an ennao

kay

okay

fa'na'an

maybe

ennao

that

kay maybe that

32:08

todu i kuestión

todu

all

i

DET.DEF

kuestión

question

that is all the question

32:12

hunggan

yes

32:14

uh

32:16

[chumåchalek]

[laughing]

32:18

"okay" uh, este ha' put hågu på'go uh pat sa' malago' bai bai faisen hao ha' pues uh

"okay"

okay

uh

este

this

ha'

EMP

put

about

hågu

PRO.EMP[2S]

på'go

now

uh

pat

or

sa'

because

malago'

want

bai

IRR

bai

IRR

faisen

ask

hao

PRO[2S]

ha'

EMP

pues

so

uh

okay uh, this is only about you now or because I just want to ask you so then uh

32:23

mafañågu hao "nineteen forty-seven" pues amånu muskuela hao?

mafañågu

born

hao

PRO[2S]

"nineteen forty-seven"

nineteen forty-seven

pues

so

amånu

where?

muskuela

<um>

AGR[nPL]

eskuela

go.to.school

hao

PRO[2S]

you were born in 1947, so where did you attend school?

32:28

muskuela hu' Hagåtña

muskuela

<um>

AGR[nPL]

eskuela

go.to.school

hu'

PRO[1S]

Hagåtña

I went to school in Hagatna

32:30

"Agana Elementary School"

Agana Elementary School

32:32

"and then I transferred to Adelup"

and then I transferred to Adelup

32:34

"Adelup used to be an elementary school"

Adelup used to be an elementary school

32:36

"where the..."

where the...

"where the..."

32:38

"the governor's office is right now"

the governor's office is right now

32:39

"that used to be an elementary school"

that used to be an elementary school

32:41

"so I went to elementary school"

so I went to elementary school

32:42

guihi

there

32:43

pes månao hu' pa GW giya Mongmong, "the old GW with the quonset hut"

pes

pues

so

månao

<um>

AGR[nPL]

hånao

go

hu'

PRO[1S]

pa

para

to

GW

giya

LCL

Mongmong

hollow.sounding

"the old GW with the quonset hut"

the old GW with the quonset hut

so then I went to GW in Mongmong, the old GW with the quonset hut

32:43

GW = George Washington High School

32:48

hunggan

yes

32:48

"I went to that school"

I went to that school

32:50

"then I finally graduated at JFK"

then I finally graduated at JFK

32:50

JFK = John F. Kennedy High School

32:52

"the first year that JFK was called JFK"

the first year that JFK was called JFK

32:55

"'cause before that"

'cause before that

32:56

"Tumon High School" ayu eståba

"Tumon High School"

Tumon High School

ayu

that

eståba

formerly.was

that used to be Tumon High School

32:59

pus mugraduate hu' gi JFK

pus

pues

so

mugraduate

<um>

AGR[nPL]

"graduate"

graduate

hu'

PRO[1S]

gi

LCL

JFK

I graduated from JFK

33:01

pes muskuela hu' gi "College"

pes

pues

then

muskuela

<um>

AGR[nPL]

eskuela

go.to.school

hu'

PRO[1S]

gi

LCL

"College"

College

then I went to College

33:03

guini?

guini

here

33:04

ha'a

yeah

yes

33:05

GCC pat

GCC

pat

or

GCC or

33:05

GCC = Guam Community College

33:07

Unibetsidat?

Unibetsidat

University

33:07

"I--" månao hu' pa Amerika, månao hu' para "California"

"I--"

"I"

I

månao

<um>

AGR[nPL]

hånao

go

hu'

PRO[1S]

pa

para

to

Amerika

America

månao

<um>

AGR[nPL]

hånao

go

hu'

PRO[1S]

para

to

California

I went to America, I went to California

33:10

"ohh"

ohh

oh

33:11

"and I was taking classes here and there"

and I was taking classes here and there

33:14

pes annai måtto hu' tatte' "I ki-- I finally"

pes

pues

so

annai

when

måtto

come

hu'

PRO[1S]

tatte'

back

"I ki-- I finally"

I ki-- I finally

so then when I came back, I ki-- i finally

33:19

"finished my, um..."

finished my, um...

33:20

"here at UOG"

here at UOG

33:21

Pues amånu na macho'cho' hao?

Pues

So

amånu

where?

na

COMP

macho'cho'

worked

hao

PRO[2S]

So then where did you work?

33:23

Macho'cho' hu' "for Federal Government"

Macho'cho'

worked

hu'

PRO[1S]

"for Federal Government"

for Federal Government

I worked for the federal government

33:25

Håfa na klåsen cho'cho'?

Håfa

what?

na

LNK

klåsen

klåsi

type

n

of

cho'cho'

work

What type of work?

33:27

"I was a managerial..."

I was a managerial...

33:28

"ohh"

ohh

33:29

"contracting officer, I was an--"

contracting officer, I was an--

33:31

"uh, manager"

uh, manager

33:33

"I was a contracting officer so I know a little about..."

I was a contracting officer so I know a little about...

33:36

"paralegal stuff"

paralegal stuff

33:38

ya umasågua

ya

and

umasågua

<um>

AGR[nPL]

asågua

marry

and married

33:39

åhe' ti ha faisen hu' ayi nobio-hu

åhe'

no

ti

NEG

ha faisen

ha

AGR[3S]

faisen

ask

hu'

PRO[1S]

ayi

that

nobio-hu

nobio

boyfriend

-hu

1S.POSS

no my boyfriend did not ask me

33:40

[chumåchalek]

[laughing]

33:41

ti malago'

ti

NEG

malago'

want

he didn't want to

33:43

Kao guaha kao guaha famagu'on-mu?

Kao

YNQ

guaha

there.is

kao

YNQ

guaha

there.is

famagu'on-mu

famagu'on

children

-mu

1S.POSS

Do you have do you have children?

33:45

Åhe', dai, "yeah"

Åhe'

no

dai

friend

"yeah"

yeah

No, friend. Yeah

33:46

ti malago' u-- uf-- guåhu hu faisen gue' ilek-hu

ti

NEG

malago'

want

u

IRR.AGR[3S]

u f--

u

IRR.AGR[3S]

(faisen)

ask

guåhu

PRO.EMP[1S]

hu

AGR[1S]

faisen

ask

gue'

PRO[3S]

ilek-hu

ilek-

say

-hu

1S.POSS

he didn't want to, he'd a-- I asked him, I said

33:49

'Kao malago' ya ta ásagua'?', ilek-ña, "no"

kao

YNQ

malago'

want

ya

yanggen

if

ta ásagua'

ta

AGR[1PL.INCL]

á

RECIP

asågua

marry

ilek-ña

ilek-

say

-ña

3S.POSS

"no"

no

"do you want us to get married?", he said, "No"

33:50

[chumåchalek]

[laughing]

33:51

[chumåchalek]

[laughing]

33:53

"so that's it"

so that's it

33:55

Pues pues si nanå-mu yan si tatå-mu, kao un tungo' taimanu umásodda' siha?

Pues

so

pues

then

si

UNM

nanå-mu

nåna

mother

-mu

2S.POSS

yan

and

si

UNM

tatå-mu

tåta

father

-mu

2S.POSS

kao

YNQ

un tungo'

un

AGR[2S]

tungo'

know

taimanu

how

umásodda'

<um>

AGR[nPL]

á

RECIP

sodda'

find

siha

PRO.EMP[3PL]

So then your mom and dad, do you know how they met?

33:59

Ai kana' bumisinu nai sa' unu taotao Aniguak otro taotao Hulåle'

Ai

oh

kana'

almost

bumisinu

<um>

AGR[nPL]

bisinu

neighbor

nai

y'know

sa'

because

unu

one

taotao

person

Aniguak

otro

other

taotao

person

Hulåle'

Ai they were almost neighbors, y'know, because one person was from Aniguak and the other from Hulåle'

34:02

"ohh"

ohh

34:04

mmhm

34:08

Pues ennao ha' sa'--

pues

so

ennao

that

ha'

just

sa'

because

So then just because

34:09

"Guess what!"

Guess what!

34:10

"Guess what!"

Guess what!

34:12

Si tatå-hu månao guatu ya malasa gi as nanå-hu

Si

UNM

tatå-hu

tåta

father

-hu

1S.POSS

månao

<um>

AGR[nPL]

hånao

go

guatu

there

ya

and

malasa

ma

PASS

lasa

massage

gi

LCL

as

OBL

nanå-hu

nåna

mother

-hu

1S.POSS

my dad went over to my mom and was massaged by my mom

34:15

Ha lasa si nanå-mu?

Ha

AGR[3S]

lasa

massage

si

UNM

nanå-mu

nåna

mother

-mu

2S.POSS

He massaged your mom?

34:16

ah månao guatu ya po malasa

ah

månao

<um>

AGR[nPL]

hånao

go

guatu

there

ya

and.then

po

para u

IRR.AGR[3S]

malasa

ma

PASS

lasa

massage

ah he went over there to be massaged

34:19

Guiya si nanå-mu

Guiya

PRO.EMP[3S]

si

UNM

nanå-mu

nåna

mother

-mu

2S.POSS

It was your mom [who did it]?

34:19

si tatå-hu si tatå-hu månao guatu ya

si

UNM

tatå-hu

tåta

father

-hu

1S.POSS

si

UNM

tatå-hu

tåta

father

-hu

1S.POSS

månao

<um>

AGR[nPL]

hånao

go

guatu

there

ya

and

my dad my dad went over there and

34:22

"ohh!"

ohh!

34:22

po malasa gi as nanå-hu

po

para u

IRR.AGR[3S]

malasa

ma

PASS

lasa

massage

gi as

UNM.OBL

nanå-hu

nåna

mother

-hu

1S.POSS

to be massaged by my mom

34:23

hunggan

yes

34:24

pues linasa gi as nanå-hu

pues

so

linasa

<in>

PASS

lasa

masage

gi as

UNM.OBL

nanå-hu

nåna

mother

-hu

1S.POSS

so he was massaged by my mom

34:27

"and from there on, it was love!"

and from there on, it was love!

34:29

[chumåchalek]

[laughing]

34:30

"isn't that funny?"

isn't that funny?

34:33

Kao un tungo' kuåntos åños siha?

Kao

YNQ

un tungo'

un

AGR[2S]

tungo'

know

kuåntos

how.many

åños

years

siha

PRO.EMP[3PL]

Do you know how old were they?

34:35

"oh boy, I think they were..."

oh boy, I think they were...

34:38

"in their late..."

in their late...

34:39

"in-- in their-- in their very early twenties maybe? I don't know"

in-- in their-- in their very early twenties maybe? I don't know

34:44

"or, y'know, in their late teens, maybe?"

or, y'know, in their late teens, maybe?

34:47

lao kana' bumisinu nai i dos

lao

but

kana'

almost

bumisinu

<um>

AGR[nPL]

bisinu

neighbor

nai

ENCL***

i

DET.DEF

dos

two

but they were almost neighbors

34:49

pus nu

pues nu

so.then

so then

34:51

hagas ha ripåra na ei sa' manlálasa ayu na palå'an yan nu "you know" kalan ya-ña nai

hagas

ago

ha ripåra

ha

AGR[3S]

ripåra

notice

na

COMP

ei

***

sa'

because

manlálasa

man

ANTIP

la~

PROG

lasa

massage

ayu

that

na

LNK

palå'an

lady

yan

and

nu

like

"you know"

you know

kalan

like

ya-ña

ya-

like

-ña

3S.POSS

nai

y'know

he notices that because the lady was doing massages and like, you know, he sort of liked her, y'know?

34:56

pus ha fa'malångu gue' ya månao ya malasa

pus

pues

so

ha fa'malångu

ha

AGR[3S]

fa'-

pretend.to

malångu

sick

gue'

PRO[3S]

ya

and

månao

<um>

AGR[nPL]

hånao

go

ya

and.then

malasa

ma

PASS

lasa

massage

so he pretended to be sick and went to be massaged

34:57

[chumåchalek]

[laughing]

35:01

månao ya malasa

månao

<um>

AGR[nPL]

hånao

go

ya

and

malasa

ma

PASS

lasa

massage

he went and got massaged

35:02

[chumåchalek]

[laughing]

35:03

pus "y'know, then they"

pus

pues

so

"y'know, then they"

y'know, then they

so y'know, then they

35:05

"then he proposed to her or whatever and"

then he proposed to her or whatever and

35:08

umásagua i dos

umásagua

<um>

AGR[nPL]

á

RECIP

asågua

marry

i

DET.DEF

dos

two

the two married

35:10

Håfa na såkkan i mafañågu si nanå-mu yan si tatå-mu

Håfa

what?

na

LNK

såkkan

year

i

DET.DEF

mafañågu

born

si

UNM

nanå-mu

nåna

mother

-mu

2S.POSS

yan

and

si

UNM

tatå-mu

tåta

father

-mu

2S.POSS

What year were your mom and dad born?

35:13

si nanå-hu "is" ah

si

UNM

nanå-hu

nåna

mother

-hu

1S.POSS

"is"

is

ah

my mom is ah

35:15

"nineteen...fifteen and" si tatå-hu "nineteen-oh-eight"

"nineteen...fifteen and"

nineteen...fifteen and

si

UNM

tatå-hu

tåta

father

-hu

1S.POSS

"nineteen-oh-eight"

nineteen-oh-eight

1915 and my dad 1908

35:21

"wow"

wow

35:21

"I believe"

I believe

35:23

"or," nu, "nineteen twenty-one? No-"

"or"

or

nu

uh

"nineteen twenty-one? No-"

nineteen twenty-one? No-

or, nu, nineteen twenty-one? No-

35:26

Ai dai, ti hu tungo'. Maleffa hu'

Ai

oh

dai

dear

ti

NEG

hu tungo'

hu

AGR[1S]

tungo'

know

maleffa

forget

hu'

PRO[1S]

Oh dear, I don't know. I forgot.

35:28

"Nineteen twenty-one" fana'an si nanå-hu

"Nineteen twenty-one"

Nineteen twenty-one

fana'an

maybe

si

UNM

nanå-hu

nåna

mother

-hu

1S.POSS

Nineteen twenty-one maybe my mom

35:31

"and my father, I can't remember, honestly it's terrible, I can't remember now what year"

and my father, I can't remember, honestly it's terrible, I can't remember now what year

35:36

"it's on their graves, but..." [chumåchalek] eh

"it's on their graves, but..."

it's on their graves, but...

eh

"it's on their graves, but..." [laughing] eh

35:42

ahh dispensa

ahh

dispensa

sorry

ah sorry

35:47

Kao guaha kuestión-miyu?

Kao

YNQ

guaha

there.is

kuestión-miyu

kuestión

question

-miyu

2PL.POSS

do any of you have questions?

35:48

"no"

no

35:49

"No"? Ah oh-- hamyo?

"no"

no

ah

oh

hamyo

PRO.EMP[2PL]

No? Ah oh-- you?

35:51

guaha mås nu

guaha

there.is

mås

more

nu

COMP

are there more that

35:52

ya malago' un tungo'

ya

yanggen

if

malago'

want

un tungo'

un

AGR[2S]

tungo'

know

that you want to know?

35:57

dr -- "uh, I'm a little curious if there are any um favorite memories that you have of your parents and their practice"

36:08

dr -- "sort of any moments where-- I know you said you weren't called to the profession but any moments as a child where where you were thinking, 'um maybe, this is a really interesting experience or memory'"

36:22

ahm

um

ahm

36:26

"we"

we

36:29

"I feel, ooh, this is sort of um-- it's a story"

I feel, ooh, this is sort of um-- it's a story

36:33

"but, um"

but, um

36:35

"when--"

when--

36:36

dr -- "and, actually, um, I'm-- I'm sorry, I know the question was in English, but could it, could you, tr--, could you reply in CHamoru?"

36:42

"yeah" ha'a nu ahm ...an i an i

"yeah"

yeah

ha'a

yeah

nu

so

ahm

um

an

annai

when

i

DET.DEF

an

annai

when

i

DET.DEF

yeah, yeah, so um ...when the when the

36:51

guaha na biåhi na guaha manmåtto ya ti- guah na biåhi na mambisita

guaha na biåhi na

sometimes

guaha

there.is

manmåtto

man

AGR[PL]

måtto

come

ya

and

ti

NEG

guaha na biåhi na

sometimes

mambisita

man

AGR[PL]

bisita

visit

sometimes people would come and not- sometimes they would visit

36:55

"or that we think" mambisita lao ti mambisita

"or that we think"

or that we think

mambisita

man

AGR[PL]

bisita

visit

lao

but

ti

NEG

mambisita

man

AGR[PL]

bisita

visit

or that we think would visit, but did not visit

36:59

un biåhi nu ahm måtto ayi che'lu para u boka talo'åni nai

un

AGR[2S]

biåhi

time

nu

uh

ahm

um

måtto

come

ayi

that

che'lu

sibling

para u

IRR.AGR[3S]

boka

eat

talo'åni

lunch

nai

y'know

one time uh um my sibling came to eat lunch, y'know

37:05

ya nu ha hungok i kareta nai

ya

and

nu

uh

ha

AGR[3S]

hungok

hear

i

DET.DEF

kareta

car

nai

y'know

and uh he heard a car, y'know

37:08

kumahúhulo' ilek-ña, 'lani'

kumahúhulo'

<um>

AGR[nPL]

ka

kept***

hu~

PROG

hulo'

get.up

ilek-ña

ilek

say

-ña

3S.POSS

'lani'

shit

getting up he said, 'shit'

37:11

ta'lo, ta'lo "yeah"

ta'lo

again

ta'lo

again

"yeah"

yeah

again, again, yeah

37:11

"he-- he just sat down, he just sat down to eat" yan guah bisita "when" annai

"he-- he just sat down, he just sat down to eat"

he-- he just sat down, he just sat down to eat

yan

and

guah

guaha

there.is

bisita

visitor

"when"

when

annai

when

he-- he just sat down, he just sat down to eat and there was a visitor when when

37:18

pus ha nangga nai ha nangga "y'know" tåya' bisita måtto

pus

pues

so

ha nangga

ha

AGR[3S]

nangga

wait

nai

y'know

ha nangga

ha

AGR[3S]

nangga

wait

"y'know"

y'know

tåya'

there.isn't

bisita

visitor

måtto

arrive

so he waited, y'know, he waited y'know until no more visitors arrived

37:21

lao ha hungok i kareta?

lao

but

ha hungok

ha

AGR[3S]

hungok

hear

i

DET.DEF

kareta

car

but he heard a car?

37:21

lao ha hungok ha' ha hungok ha' i kareta na måtto

lao

but

ha hungok

ha

AGR[3S]

hungok

hear

ha'

EMP

ha hungok

ha

AGR[3S]

hungok

hear

ha'

EMP

i

DET.DEF

kareta

car

na

OBL

måtto

arrive

but he still heard it, he still heard a car arrive

37:25

ha hungok ha' "and and to to us that was a sign" oh guah måtto bisita "so that kind of a memory"

ha hungok

ha

AGR[3S]

hungok

hear

ha'

EMP

"and and to to us that was a sign"

and and to to us that was a sign

oh

guah

guaha

there.is

måtto

arrive

bisita

visitor

"so that kind of a memory"

so that kind of a memory

he still heard it and and to to us that was a sign that someone visited us so that kind of a memory

37:31

"also, um"

also, um

37:34

ah

37:36

i i

i

DET.DEF

i

DET.DEF

the the

37:36

ayu na klåsen klåsen

ayu

that

na

LNK

klåsen

klåsi

type

n

LNK

klåsen

klåsi

type

n

LNK

that kind of.. kind of

37:39

"and and we think" na na guah siha ayi i manmåtai yan manmåtto manmambisita taigui na klåsi "but"

"and and we think"

and and we think

na

COMP

na

COMP

guah

guaha

there.is

siha

PRO.EMP[3PL]

ayi

that

i

DET.DEF

manmåtai

man

AGR[PL]

måtai

die

yan

and

manmåtto

man

AGR[PL]

måtto

come

manmambisita

man

AGR[PL]

man

ANTIP

bisita

visit

taigui

like.that

na

LNK

klåsi

kind

"but"

but

and and we think that there are those that died and those that come to visit, like that kind, but

37:44

"in their particular job"

in their particular job

37:47

nu ti ti

nu

uh

ti

NEG

ti

NEG

uh not not

37:49

ti meggai nu ahm

ti

NEG

meggai

many

nu

OBL

ahm

um

not many um

37:52

ti megga-- tåya' nu ah

ti

NEG

megga--

meggai

many

tåya'

there.isn't

nu

OBL

ah

not many-- there wasn't, uh

37:54

tåya' "particular" ahm

tåya'

there.isn't

"particular"

particular

ahm

um

there was no particular

37:57

"favorite story or anything like that"

favorite story or anything like that

37:59

lao lao lao i- "it"

lao

but

lao

but

lao

but

i-

i

DET.DEF

"it"

it

but but but it

38:02

"only that I-- it... it's um"

only that I-- it... it's um

38:05

"it's kind of, um"

it's kind of, um

38:07

"after thing" nai ni iyi

"after thing"

after thing

nai

OBL

ni

OBL

iyi

that

after thing that that

38:09

kalan nu mm in-- kalan guah bisita manmåfatto ha' ya ti ya ti pa u fanma'åmte

kalan

like

nu

OBL

mm

in

AGR[1PL.EXCL]

kalan

like

guah

guaha

there.is

bisita

visitor

manmåfatto

man

AGR[PL]

få~

PROG

fåtto

come

ha'

EMP

ya

and

ti

NEG

ya

and

ti

NEG

pa

para

for

u fanma'åmte

u fan

IRR.ANTIP.AGR[3S]

ma

PASS

åmte

heal

like mm, w-- like there were visitors that would just come and did not did not need to be treated

38:15

"it it just"

it it just

38:16

"that's what we recollect sometimes"

that's what we recollect sometimes

38:18

hami ni famagu'on

hami

PRO.EMP[1PL.EXCL]

ni

that

famagu'on

children

us children

38:21

na

COMP

that

38:22

"okay, that's one experience, and then, you know, uh"

okay, that's one experience, and then, you know, uh

38:26

guah ta'lo mås lao lao "I-"

guah

guaha

there.is

ta'lo

again

mås

more

lao

but

lao

but

"I-"

I-

there are yet more but but I

38:28

"I, I can't remember it all right now"

I, I can't remember it all right now

38:30

"that's the one thing that I remember"

that's the one thing that I remember

"that's the one thing that I remember"

38:32

"very physical"

very physical

38:34

na guah måtto kareta

na

COMP

guah

guaha

there.is

måtto

come

kareta

care

that a vehicle came

38:36

tåya'

nothing

nothing else

38:38

"very physical"

very physical

38:40

tåya'

nothing

nothing else

38:42

lao

but

38:43

"other than that"

other than that

38:45

bula siha manmåfatto ni ni

bula

many

siha

PRO.EMP[3PL]

manmåfatto

man

AGR[PL]

få~

PROG

fåtto

come

ni

OBL

ni

OBL

many would come

38:47

maseha håfa na ora manmåfatto pat

maseha håfa

whatever

na

LNK

ora

hour

manmåfatto

man

AGR[PL]

få~

PROG

fåtto

come

pat

or

they came at whatever time or

38:49

ai guah na biåhi na ti manmakmåta ham

ai

oh

guaha na biåhi na

there.were.times.that

ti

NEG

manmakmåta

man

AGR[PL]

makmåta

awake

ham

PRO[1PL.EXCL]

ai there were times that we were not even awake yet

38:51

"ohh"

ohh

38:52

Ha'a

yeah

yes

38:53

"yeah"

yeah

38:54

lao lao manluhan nai i i-- "y'know they want to get the child as quickly as possible" guatu gi i suruhåna sa'

lao

but

lao

but

manluhan

man

AGR[PL]

luhan

panicked

nai

COMP

i

DET.DEF

i

DET.DEF

"y'know they want to get the child as quickly as possible"

y'know they want to get the child as quickly as possible

guatu

there

gi

LCL

i

DET.DEF

suruhåna

traditional.healer(f)

sa'

because

but but they were nevous that the the-- y'know they want to get the child as quickly as possible over to the native healer because

39:01

man-- man"up all night" man-- man-- man-- manluhan ni famagu'on-ñiha

man--

lao

but

man-"up all night"

man

AGR[PL]

"up all night"

up all night

man--

man

AGR[PL]

man--

man

AGR[PL]

man--

man

AGR[PL]

manluhan

man

AGR[PL]

luhan

panicked

ni

OBL

famagu'on-ñiha

famagu'on

children

-ñiha

3PL.POSS

but they were up all night and they they they were nervous for their children

39:05

"so they come very early sometime"

so they come very early sometime

39:09

"the..."

the...

the

39:10

"yeah"

yeah

39:12

"so"

so

39:14

"but, um"

but, um

but um

39:16

"that-- that's it, really"

that-- that's it, really

that-- that's it really

39:19

"y'know that that kinda stands out"

y'know that that kinda stands out

39:21

"this is the... after-- afterlife or something"

this is the... after-- afterlife or something

this is the... after--afterlife or something

39:29

"for uh"

for uh

39:30

"a little" memorias

"a little"

a little

memorias

remembrance

a little remembrance

39:32

"or"

or

39:32

"yeah"

yeah

39:33

"that's kinda what you were looking for?"

that's kinda what you were looking for?

39:35

dr - "great, thank you"

39:41

manmonhåyan

man

AGR[PL]

monhåyan

finished

they are all done

39:44

monhåyan

finished

done

39:45

monhåyan esta?

monhåyan

done

esta

already

done already?

39:46

Janice Toves, project manager -- hunggan

39:47

Okay, dai, ai, pus nu

Okay

okay

dai

friend

ai

ay

pus nu

pues nu

so.then

Okay, friend, ay, so then

39:49

ahm

ah

39:50

ah "hopefully" na man-- inayuda ni esudi- estudiå-mu

ah

"hopefully"

hopefully

na

COMP

man--

man

AGR[PL]

inayuda

<in>

NOM

ayuda

help

ni

OBL

esudi-

esudia

study

estudiå-mu

estudia

study

-mu

2S.POSS

ah, hopefully they were-- this was a help to the stud-- your study

39:53

hunggan, hunggan

hunggan

yes

hunggan

yes

yes yes

Interview with Tan Bennet Terlaje

Interviewer: Siñora Fu'una Sanz