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Metadata introduction & chatter

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Unique Identifier: CH_2021-07-30_AC_01-Spirituality+Catholicism

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Project Title: Developing CHamoru Language Infrastructure - Goggue yan CHachalani Mo'na i Fino'-ta

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Interviewers: Nolan Flores (recorder), Jeremy Cepeda (interviewer)

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Consultant: Adrian Cruz

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Location: Kumision i Fino' CHamoru office in Tiyan, Guahan (Guam)

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Date: July 30, 2021

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Time: 9:38am

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Recording Format: WAV format, 96kbps, 24bit depth

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Topic: Spirituality & Catholicism

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Notes: You will hear some air traffic noise overhead in the background, we have some, ah training exercises apparently this morning, so you'll be hearing some, ah, airplanes flying by and you might hear someone else, uh, in the office connected to this recording studio, uh, making some noise

1:55

uh

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Håfa adai, Mr. Cruz, uh, for the record could uh

Håfa adai

(greeting)

Hello, Mr. Cruz, uh, for the record could uh

1:59

håyi na'ån-mu, kabåles na na'ån-mu yan i ginen manu hamyo na familia

håyi

Who

na'ån-mu,

na'ån

name

-mu

2S.POSS

kabåles

complete

na

LNK

na'ån-mu

na'ån

name

-mu

2S.POSS

yan

and

i

DET.DEF

ginen

from

manu

where

hamyo

PRO[2PL]

na

LNK

familia

family

what is your name, complete name and where is your family is from

2:04

ah håfa adai guåhu si Adrian Cruz

ah

håfa adai

(greeting)

guåhu

PRO.EMP[1S]

si

UNM

Adrian Cruz

ah hello I am Adrian Cruz

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ahm

um

ahm

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håfa ta'lo

håfa

what

ta'lo

again

what again

2:12

ah håyi hamyo na Cruz håyi hamyo na familia

ah

håyi

who

hamyo

PRO[2PL]

na

LNK

Cruz

håyi

who

hamyo

PRO[2PL]

na

LNK

familia

family

ah which Cruz, which family are you

2:15

Oh

oh

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Dopble yu' na Cruz i un bånda ma fa'nana'an Tirow ya i otro bånda ma fa'nana'an CHeling

Dopble

Two

yu'

PRO[1S]

na

LNK

Cruz

i

DET.DEF

un

one

bånda

side

ma

AGR[3PL]

fa'nana'an

nå~

PROG

fa'nå'an

named

Tirow

ya

and

i

DET.DEF

otro

other

bånda

side

ma

AGR[3S]

fa'nana'an

nå~

PROG

fa'nå'an

named

CHeling

I am apart of two Cruz families, one side Tirow and the other side Cheling

2:23

ah

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mismo manginen taotao Hagåtña hit lao på'go sumåsaga yu' giya Mangilao

mismo

personally

manginen

man

PL

ginen

from

taotao

people

Hagåtña

hit

PRO[1PL.INCL]

lao

but

på'go

now

sumåsaga

<um>

AGR[nPL]

så~

PROG

såga

stay

yu'

PRO[1S]

giya

LCL

Mangilao

we are actually from Hagåtña however now I stay in Mangilao

2:30

mm

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maolek

good

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ahm

um

ahm

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"kay" kuan- ah ngai'an nai mafañågu hao?

"kay"

ok

kuån-

(kuånto)

how.many

ah

ngai'an

when

nai

y'know

mafañågu

birthday

hao?

PRO[2S]

kay how- when is your birthday

2:36

i mit nuebi siento ochentai dos pues ah trentai ocho

i

DET.DEF

mit

thousand

nuebi

nine

siento

hundred

ochentai

eighty

dos

two

pues

then

ah

trentai

thirty

ocho

eight

1982 so 38

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åños yu' på'go

åños

years

yu'

PRO[1S]

på'go

now

old now

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ah mafañågu yu' ah guihi lågu America giya San Francisco iya California

ah

mafañågu

born

yu'

PRO[1S]

guihi

there(distal)

lågu

away

America

giya

LCL

San Francisco

iya

LCL

California

ah I was born uh over there in America in San Francisco California

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ah mapoksai yu' guatu lokkue'

ah

mapoksai

ma

PASS

poksai

raise

yu'

PRO[1S]

guatu

there

lokkue'

also

I was raised there also

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ya

and

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åntes di sotero yu' måtto yu' guini håya Guåhan ya

åntes di

before

sotero

mature

yu'

PRO[1S]

måtto

arrive

yu'

PRO[1S]

guini

here

håya

inland

Guåhan

ya

and

I came back to Guåhan before I was a teenager and

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ahm eyigue' tiempo-ku annai esta

ahm

um

eyigue'

that

tiempo-ku

tiempo

time

-ku

1S.POSS

annai

when

esta

already

ahm that was my time already when

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lumádangkolo yu' humånao yu' ta'lo guatu America annai monhåyan yu' kom- gi High School ya kumulehiu America despues hu bira yu' tatte

lumádangkolo

<um>

AGR[nPL]

lá

INC

dångkolo

big

yu'

PRO[1S]

humånao

<um>

AGR[nPL]

hånao

go

yu'

PRO[1S]

ta'lo

again

guatu

over.there

America

annai

when

monhåyan

finished

yu'

PRO[1S]

kom-

<um>

AGR[nPL]

(kulehiu)

college

gi

LCL

High School

ya

and

kumulehiu

<um>

AGR[nPL]

kulehiu

college

America

despues

after

hu

AGR[1S]

bira

turn

yu'

PRO[1S]

tatte

back

when I became older, I went again to America when I finished High School and I attended college in America then I returned back

3:15

iya Guåhan ya

iya

LCL

Guåhan

ya

and

to Guåhan and

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desde ayu na tiempo sumåsaga yu' guini

desde

since.then

ayu

that

na

LNK

tiempo

time

sumåsaga

<um>

AGR[nPL]

så~

PROG

såga

stay

yu'

PRO[1S]

guini

here

since then I have lived here

3:20

maolek maolek

maolek

good

maolek

good

good good

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lao ah

lao

but

ah

but ah

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mapoksai hao ya dumångkolo hao gi fino' CHamoru ha'

mapoksai

ma

PASS

poksai

raise

hao

PRO[2S]

ya

and

dumångkolo

<um>

INCHO

dångkolo

big

hao

PRO[2S]

gi

LCL

fino'

language

CHamoru

ha'

only

you were raised and grew up in CHamoru

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hunggan sa' mapoksai biha yu'

hunggan

yes

sa'

because

mapoksai

ma

PASS

poksai

raise

biha

grandmother

yu'

PRO[1S]

yes I was raised by my grandmother

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pues i guellå-hu yan si guello-hu ma poksai yu' distiki dos åños yu'

pues

so

i

DET.DEF

guellå-hu

guella

grandmother

-hu

1S.POSS

yan

and

si

UNM

guello-hu

guello

grandfather

-hu

1S.POSS

ma

AGR[3PL]

poksai

raise

yu'

PRO[1S]

distiki

since.then

dos

to

åños

year

yu'

PRO[1S]

so my grandmother and my grandfather raised me since I was two years old

3:34

ah ya gi sánhalom i gima'

ah

ya

and

gi

LCL

sánhalom

sán

DIR

hålom

inside

i

DET.DEF

gima'

house

ah and in the house

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CHamoru ha' ma u'usa sa'

CHamoru

ha'

only

ma

AGR[3PL]

u'usa

u~

PROG

usa

use

sa'

because

they only used CHamoru because

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ombe man-- este manbibihu siha ya

ombe

man

man--

man

PL

este

these

manbibihu

man

PL

bi~

PROG

bihu

old.man

siha

PL

ya

and

you know they are aleady elder and

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tåya' esta mandångkolo i i ah famagu'on-ñiha

tåya'

there.isn't

esta

already

mandångkolo

man

PL

dångkolo

big

i

DET.DEF

i

DET.DEF

ah

famagu'on-ñiha

famagu'on

children

-ñiha

3PL.POSS

there was no, their kids were already grown

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pues guåhu ha' i nietun-ñiha yan siha yan si nanå-hu

pues

so

guåhu

PRO.EMP[1S]

ha'

only

i

DET.DEF

nietun-ñiha

nieto

grandchild

-ñiha

3PL.POSS

yan

and

siha

PRO.EMP[3PL]

yan

and

si

UNM

nanå-hu

nåna

mother

-hu

1S.POSS

so it was only me, their grandchild, them, and my mother

3:50

ahm "you know" sumåsaga hit

ahm

um

"you know"

you know

sumåsaga

<um>

AGR[nPL]

så~

PROG

såga

stay

hit

PRO[1PL.INCL]

ahm you know we stayed

3:53

ah gi un guma' giya San Francisco

ah

gi

LCL

un

a

guma'

house

giya

LCL

San Francisco

ah in a house in San Francisco

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ahm gi sánhalom i gima' CHamoru ha'

ahm

um

gi

LCL

sánhalom

sán

DIR

halom

inside

i

DET.DEF

gima'

house

CHamoru

ha'

only

ah so it was only CHamoru in the house

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maolek maolek áchokka'

maolek

good

maolek

good

áchokka'

even.though

good good even though

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ah dine- dinekko' hao gi sánlagu

ah

(dinekko')

<in>

PASS

dokko'

grow

dinekko'

<in>

PASS

dokko'

grow

hao

PRO[2S]

gi

LCL

sánlagu

sán

DIR

lågu

away

ah you gr- you grew up away from her

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a'annok na

a'annok

a~

PROG

annok

apparent

na

LNK

it is obvious that

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tåddong i hale'-mu gi kustombre-ta ya i fino'-ta

tåddong

deep

i

DET.DEF

hale'-mu

hale'

root

-mu

2S.POSS

gi

LCL

kustombre-ta

kustombre

culture

-ta

1PL.INCL.POSS

ya

and

i

DET.DEF

fino'-ta

fino'

language

-ta

1PL.INCL.POSS

your roots in our culture and language are deep

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na'magof, nihi ya ta abiba i mañaina-mu nu ennao si Yu'os ma'åse'

na'magof,

na'

CAUS

magof

happy

nihi

let's

ya

and

ta

AGR[1PL.INCL]

abiba

celebrate

i

DET.DEF

mañaina-mu

man

PL

saina

elder

-mu

2S.POSS

nu

of

ennao

that

si Yu'os ma'åse'

thank you

this causes happiness, let us celebrate your elders for that thank you

4:18

"kay" pues ahh

"kay"

ok

pues

so

ahh

ah

ok so

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manggaige hit på'go na ha'åni na

manggaige

man

PL

gaige

present

hit

PRO[1PL.INCL]

på'go

now

na

LNK

ha'åni

today

na

LNK

we are here today to

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ta fanádingan nu i asunton

ta

AGR[1PL.INCL]

fanádingan

fan

IMP

ádingan

discuss

nu

about

i

DET.DEF

asunton

asunto

subject

n

LNK

to discuss the subject

4:27

i "spirituality then" yan "Catholicism"

i

DET.DEF

"spirituality"

spirituality

"then"

then

yan

and

"Catholicism"

Catholicism

the spirituality and Catholicism

4:32

yan i hinenggen Katholiku

yan

and

i

DET.DEF

hinenggen

<in>

NOM

hongge

believe

n

LNK

Katholiku

Catholic

and the Catholic beliefs

4:34

hunggan

yes

4:34

nu

um

nu

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håfa siha ma susedi sigún gi tiningo'-mu ah

håfa

what

siha

PRO[3PL]

ma

AGR[3PL]

susedi

experience

sigún

acording.to

gi

LCL

tiningo'-mu

<in>

NOM

tungo'

know

-mu

2S.POSS

ah

what they experienced according to your knowledge

4:40

yan todu siha pues ah

yan

and

todu

all

siha

PL

pues

so

ah

and those things so

4:42

nihi ya ta tutuhon ya atan i finaisen siha ni ma prepåra esta

nihi

let's

ya

and

ta

AGR[1PL.INCL]

tutuhon

start

ya

and

atan

look

i

DET.DEF

finaisen

<in>

NOM

faisen

ask

siha

PL

ni

which

maprepåra

ma

PASS

prepåra

prepare

esta

already

so let's begin an look at the prepared questions

4:48

pues i numero uno

pues

so

i

DET.DEF

numero

number

uno

one

so number one

4:50

håfa na hinengge un tattitiyi

håfa

what

na

LNK

hinengge

<in>

NOM

hongge

believe

un

AGR[2S]

tattitiyi

tåtte

back

~ti

PROG

i

APPL

what belief do you follow

4:53

kao parehu ha' yan i familiå-mu?

kao

YNQ

parehu

same

ha'

just

yan

and

i

DET.DEF

familiå-mu

familiå

family

-mu

2S.POSS

is it just the same as your family?

4:56

hunggan pues ahm

hunggan

yes

pues

so

ahm

um

yes so ahm

5:00

Katholika yu'

Katholika

Catholic

yu'

PRO[1S]

I am Catholic

5:02

lao kalan

lao

but

kalan

it.is.like

but its like

5:04

meggai siha na taotao pi'ot an manhoben

meggai

many

siha

PL

na

LNK

taotao

people

pi'ot

especially

an

when

manhoben

man

PL

hoben

young

there are many people especially when they are young

5:07

ha' annai monhåyan yu' yan i "high school" ya humånao yu' ya kumulehu hu' ya guåhu yu' na maisa guihi lågu tåtte gi Amerika

ha'

just

annai

when

monhåyan

finished

yu'

PRO[1S]

yan

and

i

DET.DEF

"high school"

high school

ya

and

humånao

<um>

AGR[nPL]

humånao

go

yu'

PRO[1S]

ya

and

kumulehu

<um>

AGR[nPL]

kulehu

college

hu'

PRO[1S]

ya

and

guåhu

PRO.EMP[1S]

yu'

PRO[1S]

na

LNK

maisa

myself

guihi

there(distal)

lågu

away

tåtte

back

gi

LCL

Amerika

America

when I was done with high school and attended college and by myself over there back in America

5:17

hu a'atan i lina'lå'-hu hu atala hu a'atan todu eyi ni' ma poksai yu' ya

hu

AGR[1S]

a'atan

a~

PROG

atan

look

i

DET.DEF

lina'lå'-hu

<in>

NOM

lå'la'

alive

-hu

1S.POSS

hu

AGR[1S]

atala--

(error)

a'atan

a~

PROG

atan

look

todu

all

eyi

that

ni'

which

mapoksai

ma

PASS

poksai

raise

yu'

PRO[1S]

ya

and

I was looking at my life and loo- and looking at how I was raised and

5:25

ah

5:26

"you know" kalan sumuha yu' un ratu di muKatholiku

"you know"

you know

kalan

as

sumuha

<um>

AGR[nPL]

suha

get.away

yu'

PRO[1S]

un ratu di

awhile

muKatholiku

<um>

INF

Katholiku

Catholic

you know I moved away for awhile from being a Catholic

5:31

hu i'ilao to- otro siha na relihon pat

hu

AGR[1S]

i'ilao

i~

PROG

ilao

observe

to--

(todu)

(all)

otro

other

siha

PL

na

LNK

relihon

religion

pat

for

I looked into other religions or

5:34

otro siha na klåsen espirituåt

otro

other

siha

PL

na

LNK

klåsen

klåse

type

n

LNK

espirituåt

spiritual

other types of spiritualities

5:37

ahm ahm

ahm

um

ahm

um

ahm ahm

5:38

ahm

um

5:40

hu estutudia filosofia

hu

AGR[1S]

estutudia

tu~

PROG

estudia

study

filosofia

philosophy

I was sudying philosophy

5:42

pues bula ni eyi tiningo' ah

pues

so

bula

lots

ni

LNK

eyi

that

tiningo'

<in>

NOM

tungo'

know

ah

so there was lots of knowledge uh

5:44

"you know" tiningo' otro taotao tiningo' otro siha na

"you know"

you know

tiningo'

<in>

NOM

tungo'

know

otro

other

taotao

people

tiningo'

<in>

NOM

tungo'

know

otro

other

siha

PL

na

LNK

you know knowedge from other people's

5:49

na ahm

na

LNK

ahm

um

ahm

5:50

taotaogue

taotao

people

i

APPL

people

5:51

taotaogues pat idehas

taotaogues

taotao

people

i

APPL

"s"

PL(English/Spanish)

pat

or

idehas

idea.PL

people or ideas

5:53

ah

5:55

hu spispiha nai

hu

AGR[1S]

spispiha

spi~

PROG

spiha

search

nai

y'know

I was searching you know

5:56

månu na månu na gaige yu' gi hilo' tåno' månu na gaige yu' gi estorian ah

månu

where

na

LNK

månu

where

na

LNK

gaige

be.present

yu'

PRO[1S]

gi

LCL

hilo' tåno'

the.world

up land

månu

where

na

LNK

gaige

be.present

yu'

PRO[1S]

gi

LCL

estorian

story

n

LNK

ah

where where am I in the world where am I in the story of

6:03

i manaotao siha todu i manaotao i tano'

i

DET.DEF

manaotao

man

PL

taotao

people

siha

PL

todu

all

i

DET.DEF

manaotao

man

PL

taotao

people

i

DET.DEF

tåno'

land

the people all the people of the land

6:07

ahm lao

ahm

um

lao

but

ahm but

6:10

humånao tåtte para i "fe" ni ma poksai yu' ni' eyi i ah

humånao

<um>

AGR[nPL]

hånao

go

tåtte

back

para

to

i

DET.DEF

"fe"

faith

ni

LNK

ma

AGR[3PL]

poksai

raise

yu'

PRO[1S]

ni'

which

eyi

that

i

DET.DEF

ah

I returned back to the faith that they raised me that

6:16

ya hu konsiente på'go åhe' sa' ti put i ma tågo' yu' lao guåhu hu espiha ya guåhu hu diseha na maisa

ya

and

hu

AGR[1S]

konsiente

consent.to

på'go

now

åhe'

not

sa'

because

ti

NEG

put

or

i

DET.DEF

ma

AGR[2PL]

tågo'

direct

yu'

PRO[1S]

lao

but

guåhu

PRO.EMP[1S]

hu

AGR[1S]

espiha

search

ya

and

guåhu

PRO.EMP[1S]

hu

AGR[1S]

diseha

decide

na

LNK

maisa

myself

I have consented to, no because they have directed me to but I have searched for and I have decided myself

6:26

estegui' para guåhu

estegui'

this.is

para

for

guåhu

PRO.EMP[1S]

this is for me

6:28

ahm

um

ahm

6:29

ah magåhet yan fitme pues

ah

am

magåhet

true

yan

and

fitme

firm

pues

so

true and firm

6:32

ah humånao yu'

ah

humånao

<um>

AGR[nPL]

hånao

go

yu'

PRO[1S]

I returned

6:34

humånao yu' tåtte gi gima' Yu'os

humånao

<um>

AGR[nPL]

hånao

go

yu'

PRO[1S]

tåtte

back

gi

LCL

gima' Yu'os

church

house (of) God

I returned to the church

6:37

oh maolek maolek dispensa taiguihi ilek-hu na siempre guaguaha siha

oh

maolek

good

maolek

good

dispensa

sorry

taiguihi

as

ilek-hu

ilek

say

-hu

1S.POSS

na

LNK

siempre

all

guaguaha

gua~

PROG

guaha

there.is

siha

PL

oh good good I apologize as I said the there will be things

6:43

ah mambururuka yinaoyao gi sánhiyong dispensa guaha dispensa guaha dispensa ha' (laughing)

ah

mambururuka

man

ANTIP

ru~

PROG

buruka

noise

yinaoyao

<in>

NOM

yaoyao

noise

gi

LCL

sánhiyong

sán

DIR

huyong

out

dispensa

sorry

guaha

there.is

dispensa

sorry

guaha

there.is

dispensa

sorry

ha'

just

(laughing)

ah there is a noise outside sorry there's-- sorry there's-- just sorry

6:43

yinaoyao gi sánhiyong

yinaoyao

<in>

NOM

yaoyao

disturb

gi

LCL

sánhiyong

sán

DIR

huyong

out

noise outside

6:46

tåya' guaha

no problem

there.isn't there.is

no problem

6:50

"okay" pues ah

"okay"

okay

pues

so

ah

okay so then ah

6:52

moalek ah

moalek

good

ah

good ah

6:55

pues un oppe este

pues

so

un

AGR[2S]

oppe

answer

este

this

so you already answered this

6:58

annai dumådangkolo hao håfa hinengge ginen i gima' Yu'os ni sesso un tattiyi ilek-mu na

annai

when

dumådangkolo

<um>

AGR[nPL]

då~

PROG

dångkolo

big

hao

PRO[2S]

håfa

what

hinengge

<in>

NOM

hongge

believe

ginen

from

i

DET.DEF

gima' Yu'os

church

ni

which

sesso

often

un

AGR[2S]

tattiyi

tåtte

back

i

APPL

ilek-mu

ilek

say

-mu

2S.POSS

na

LNK

when you were growing up what belief from the church you followed you said

7:02

oh pues i familiå-ku man--

oh

pues

so

i

DET.DEF

familiå-ku

familia

family

-ku

1S.POSS

man--

man

PL

oh so my family were

7:06

kalan ha' todu manmaolek Katoliku pat båba lokkue' lao ah kada Damenggo humånao hit manhosme misa hit

kalan

seem

ha'

just

todu

all

manmaolek

man

PL

maolek

good

Katoliku

Catholic

pat

or

båba

bad

lokkue'

also

lao

but

ah

kada

every

Damenggo

Sunday

humånao

<um>

AGR[nPL]

hånao

go

hit

PRO[1PL.INCL]

manhosme

man

PL

hosme

attend.church

misa

mass

hit

PRO[1PL.INCL]

it seems that all of them were good Catholics or bad also every Sunday we went we attended mass

7:14

ah gi familia guaha nubena siha ah gi durånten i sakkan

ah

gi

LCL

familia

family

guaha

there.is

nubena

novena

siha

PL

ah

gi

LCL

durånten

during

i

DET.DEF

sakkan

year

in the family there are novenas throughout the year

7:20

pues guaha eyi ah nubenan Niño, nubenan Sånta Maria, guaha i nubenan i Patron i familia i San Pedro

pues

so

guaha

there.is

eyi

that

ah

nubenan

nubena

novena

n

LNK

Niño

baby.Jesus

nubenan

nubena

novena

n

LNK

Sånta Maria

Saint Mary

guaha

there.is

i

DET.DEF

nubenan

nubena

novena

n

LNK

i

DET.DEF

Patron

patron.saint

i

DET.DEF

familia

family

i

DET.DEF

San Pedro

Saint.Peter

so there was the novena for baby Jesus, novena for Saint Mary, there was the novena for the Patron Saint for the family, Saint Peter

7:30

ah

7:32

sigun

actually

in actuality

7:34

mafañågu yu' gi mismo ennao na nubena pues ah todu tiempo

mafañågu

ma

POSS

fañågu

born

yu'

PRO[1S]

gi

LCL

mismo

same

ennao

then

na

LNK

nubena

novena

pues

so

ah

todu

all

tiempo

time

I was born into that same novena so all the time

7:39

annai dumådangkolo yu' pi'ot yanggen makomple'åños yu'

annai

when

dumådangkolo

<um>

AGR[nPL]

då~

PROG

dångkolo

big

yu'

PRO[1S]

pi'ot

especially

yanggen

if

ma

AGR[3PL]

"they

komple'åños

birthday

birthdayed

yu'

PRO[1S]

me"

when I was growing up especially if they celebrated my birthday

7:44

hu siente na

hu

AGR[1S]

siente

feel

na

LNK

I felt that

7:47

umáchetton yu' yan eyi i Santos sa'

umáchetton

<um>

AGR[nPL]

á

RECIP

chetton

stick.with

yu'

PRO[1S]

yan

and

eyi

that

i

DET.DEF

Santos

Saints

sa'

because

the saints and I stuck together because

7:50

parehu ya para i familiå-ku nai kalan

parehu

same

ya

and

para

for

i

DET.DEF

familiå-ku

familia

family

-ku

1S.POS

nai

y'know

kalan

like

its the same and for my family its like

7:53

kalan ah

kalan

like

ah

its like ah

7:55

ah

7:56

"you know" ah

"you know"

you know

ah

you know ah

7:59

håfa eyu ma å'agang kalan

håfa

what

eyu

that

ma

å'agang

å~

PROG

ågang

call

kalan

like

what do they call it, like

8:03

kalan interisånte nai "it's a very interesting coincedence" na

kalan

like

interisånte

interesting

nai

y'know

"it's a very interesting coincedence"

it's a very interesting coincidence

na

LNK

its like interesting you know its very interesting coincedence that

8:06

mafañågu gi eyi i nubena ni hagas ha' åntes di ma fañågu yu' na hagas ha' ni machocho'gue pues

mafañågu

born

gi

LCL

eyi

that

i

DET.DEF

nubena

novena

ni

which

hagas

long.ago

ha'

just

åntes di

before

mafañågu

ma

PASS

fañågu

born

yu'

PRO[1S]

na

LNK

hagas

long.ago

ha'

just

ni

which

machocho'gue

ma

PASS

cho~

PROG

cho'gue

do

pues

so

I was born in the novena which was said ever since before I was born, that has been done ever since, so

8:13

ahm

um

ahm

8:15

gi lina'lå-hu ginegeddon yu' yan este i tiningo' Katoliku hagas ha'

gi

LCL

lina'lå-hu

<in>

NOM

lå'la'

alive

-hu

1S.POSS

ginegeddon

<in>

NOM

go~

PROG

goddon

entangled

yu'

PRO[1S]

yan

and

este

this

i

DET.DEF

tiningo'

<in>

NOM

tungo'

know

Katoliku

Catholic

hagas

long.ago

ha'

just

in my life I have been entangled with this Catholic knowledge ever since

8:21

ya fa'na'an para eyi na hinirasión i mañaina-ta nai eyi ah ah

ya

and

fa'na'an

perhaps

para

for

eyi

that

na

LNK

hinirasión

generation

i

DET.DEF

mañaina-ta

man

PL

saina

elder

-ta

1PL.INCL.POSS

nai

y'know

eyi

that

ah

and perhaps for that generation, our elders, you know, that ah

8:28

i hinirasión ni ma fañågu ya mandångkolo gi

i

DET.DEF

hinirasión

generation

ni

which

mafañågu

born

ya

and

mandångkolo

man

AGR[REAL.PL]

dångkolo

big

gi

LCL

the generation that was born and grew up in

8:31

i tiempon i gera

i

DET.DEF

tiempon

time

n

LNK

i

DET.DEF

gera

war

during the war and

8:33

i eksperesian-ñiha ah

i

DET.DEF

eksperesian-ñiha

eksperensia

experience

-ñiha

3PL.POSS

ah

their experience

8:36

ah yan i relihon kalan

ah

yan

and

i

DET.DEF

relihon

religion

kalan

like

ah and the religion is like

8:39

ti parehu yan iyo-ta

ti

NEG

parehu

same

yan

and

iyo-ta

iyo-

possession

-ta

1PL.INCL.POSS

is not the same as ours

8:41

"you know" iyo-ta, an malago' hao humånao para i gima' Yu'os, hånao ha', an ti malago' hao, maolek ha' lokkue'

"you know"

you know

iyo-ta

iyo-

possession

-ta

1PL.INCL.POSS

an

if

malago'

want

hao

PRO[2S]

humånao

<um>

INF

hånao

go

para

to

i

DET.DEF

gima' Yu'os

church

house (of) God

hånao

go

ha'

only

an

if

ti

NEG

malago'

want

hao

PRO[2S]

maolek

good

ha'

only

lokkue'

also

you know ours, if you want to go to church, just go, if you don't want, that's okay too

8:46

ah bula siha para ta cho'gue ah guaha na biåhi an Damenggo

ah

bula

a.lot

siha

PL

para

for

ta

AGR[1PL.INCL]

cho'gue

do

ah

guaha

there.is

na

LNK

biåhi

times

an

annai

when

Damenggo

Sunday

ah there were many things to do there were times in Sunday so

8:51

kalan chátsaga guaha na biåhi na humånao hit mumisa

kalan

like

chátsaga

difficult

without stability

guaha

there.is

na

LNK

biåhi

times

na

LNK

humånao

<um>

INF

hånao

go

hit

PRO[1PL.INCL]

mumisa

<um>

INF

misa

mass

its like it difficult at times for us to go attend mass

8:54

lao para siha ti parehu ennao sa'

lao

but

para

for

siha

PL

ti

NEG

parehu

same

ennao

that

sa'

because

but for them it is not the same because

8:56

ah

8:58

"you know" todu ha'

"you know"

you know

todu

all

ha'

just

you know all was just

8:59

yinamak ni gera

yinamak

<in>

PASS

yamak

break

ni

by

gera

war

broke by the war

9:01

todu ha'

todu

all

ha'

just

all was just

9:02

guaha na biåhi na hokkok ha' i i mismo iyo-mu na

guaha

there.is

na

LNK

biåhi

times

na

LNK

hokkok

finish

ha'

just

i

DET.DEF

i

DET.DEF

mismo

same

iyo-mu

iyo-

possession

-mu

2S.POSS

na

LNK

there were times that all you needed was your

9:07

i fe ha'

i

DET.DEF

fe

faith

ha'

only

just your faith

9:08

i i i hinengge-mu ha'

i

DET.DEF

i

DET.DEF

i

DET.DEF

hinengge-mu

<in>

NOM

hongge

believe

-mu

2S.POSS

ha'

only

only your beliefs

9:10

sa'

because

9:11

"you know" para siha

"you know"

you know

para

for

siha

PRO.EMP[3PL]

you know for them

9:13

si Yu'os ah

si

UNM

Yu'os

God

ah

God ah

9:15

gagaige ha' gi me'nå-mu ti kalan para hita lao gaige si Yu'os hulo' gi langhet ya hekkua' håfa siha na "you know"

gagaige

ga~

PROG

gaige

be.present

ha'

only

gi

LCL

me'nå-mu

me'nå

front

-mu

2S.POSS

ti

NEG

kalan

like

para

for

hita

PRO.EMP[1PL.INCL]

lao

but

was only present in front of you not like for us but

9:18

gaige si Yu'os hulo' gi langhet ya hekkua' håfa siha nai "you know"

gagaige

ga~

PROG

gaige

be.present

ha'

only

gi

LCL

me'nå-mu

me'nå

front

-mu

2S.POSS

ti

NEG

kalan

like

para

for

hita

PRO.EMP[1PL.INCL]

lao

but

gaige

be.present

si

UNM

Yu'os

God

hulo'

up

gi

LCL

langhet

heaven

ya

and

hekkua'

not.know

håfa

what

siha

PL

nai

y'know

"you know"

you know

God is up in heaven and I don't know what else, y'know, y'know?

9:22

para siha ti parehu nai ti parehu pues

para

for

siha

PRO[3PL]

ti

NEG

parehu

same

nai

y'know

ti

NEG

parehu

same

pues

so

for them, it wasn't the same, not the same so

9:25

hu á'atan nai ennao siha ya ya ahm

hu

AGR[1S]

á'atan

a~

PROG

atan

look

nai

y'know

ennao

that

siha

PL

ya

and

ya

and

ahm

um

I looked at those things nai and and ahm

9:29

pues

so

9:30

an dumådangkolo yu' ennao siha na klåsen ah

an

annai

when

dumådangkolo

<um>

INCHO

då~

PROG

dångkolo

good

yu'

PRO[1S]

ennao

that

siha

PL

na

LNK

klåsen

klåse

type

n

LNK

ah

when I was growing up those are the types of ah

9:34

hinengge yan ah kostumbre siha ma chócho'gue lao

hinengge

<in>

NOM

hongge

believe

yan

and

ah

kostumbre

custom

siha

PL

ma

AGR[2S]

chócho'gue

cho~

PROG

cho'gue

do

lao

but

beliefs and customs they practiced but

9:38

mapoksai California yu' pues

mapoksai

ma

PASS

poksai

raise

California

yu'

PRO[1S]

pues

so

I was raised in California so

9:40

muna'-- hu upos i petta gi sánme'nan i gima'

muna'--

muna'

CAUS

hu

AGR[1S]

upos

pass.by

i

DET.DEF

petta

door

gi

LCL

sánme'nan

sán

DIR

mo'na

forward

n

LNK

i

DET.DEF

gima'

house

made-- I passed the threshold

9:44

hu li'e todu na klåsen rilihon todu na klåsen ideha siha huyong gi katsåda huyong, huyong gi i siudå ah giya San Francisco

hu

AGR[1S]

li'e

see

todu

all

na

LNK

klåsen

klåsi

type

n

LNK

rilihon

religion

todu

all

na

LNK

klåsen

klåsi

type

n

LNK

ideha

idea

siha

PL

huyong

out

gi

LNK

katsåda

road

huyong,

out

huyong

out

gi

LCL

i

DET.DEF

siudå

city

ah

giya

LCL

San Francisco

I saw all types of religions and all types of ideas outside on the road outside, outside in the city ah in San Francisco

9:56

"you know" pues

"you know"

you know

pues

so

you know so

9:57

ah hu li'e todu ennao

ah

hu

AGR[1S]

li'e

see

todu

all

ennao

that

I saw all of that

9:59

ah lao gi sánhalom i gima' eyigue hunggan ah ma poksai yu' yan eyu na klåsen kostumbre siha

ah

lao

but

gi

LCL

sánhalom

sán

DIR

hålom

inside

i

DET.DEF

gima'

house

eyigue

that

hunggan

yes

ah

mapoksai

ma

PASS

poksai

raise

yu'

PRO[1S]

yan

and

eyu

that

na

LNK

klåsen

klåsi

type

n

LNK

kostumbre

custom

siha

PL

ah but in the house yes those are the types of beliefs I was raised with

10:06

mmm

mm

10:08

pues ah

pues

so

ah

so ah

10:10

ahm

um

ahm

10:12

este este på'go na i mafaisen-mu siha nai

este

these

este

these

på'go

now

na

LNK

i

DET.DEF

mafaisen-mu

ma

PASS

faisen

ask

-mu

2S.POSS

siha

PL

nai

y'know

these these things now which were being asked of you y'know

10:18

ah hunggan put i hinenggen Katoliku

ah

hunggan

yes

put

for

i

DET.DEF

hinenggen

<in>

NOM

hongge

believe

n

LNK

Katoliku

Catholic

ah yes they are about the Catholic beliefs

10:21

lao malago' lokkue' kumétungo' ya- ku-, yanggen guaha

lao

but

malago'

want

lokkue'

also

kumétungo'

<um>

INF

ketungo'

try.to.know

ya-

like

k--

(error)

yanggen

if

guaha

there.is

but would also like to know and- --, if any

10:26

put eyi båndan i tradisionåt na na hinengge nai

put

about

eyi

that

båndan

bånda

part

n

LNK

i

DET.DEF

tradisionåt

traditional

na

LNK

na

LNK

hinengge

<in>

NOM

hongge

believe

nai

y'know

about the traditional part of the beliefs nai

10:31

pues ah

pues

so

ah

so then ah

10:33

kao guaha håfkao siha hinenggen tradisionåt CHamoru

kao

YNQ

guaha

there.is

håfkao

thingamajigs

siha

PL

hinenggen

<in>

NOM

hongge

believe

n

LNK

tradisionåt

traditional

CHamoru

are there thingamajigs/words, traditional CHamoru beliefs

10:38

ni'

which

10:39

yi eyi mismo CHamoru

yi

eyi

that

eyi

that

mismo

inherently

CHamoru

that are inherently CHamoru

10:40

i mismo CHamoru ni' un tattitiyi pat maf- un na'dadanña' gi hinengge-mu mo'na

i

DET.DEF

mismo

inherently

CHamoru

ni'

which

un

AGR[2S]

tattitiyi

ti~

PROG

tatte

back

i

APPL

pat

or

maf-

(error)

un

AGR[2S]

na'dadanña'

na'

CAUS

da~

PROG

danña'

combine

gi

LCL

hinengge-mu

<in>

NOM

hongge

believe

-mu

2S.POSS

mo'na

forward

inherently CHamoru that you follow or -- you combine in your beliefs presently

10:48

pues

so

10:50

estague i eksperesiå-ku ni ma-- mafañågu ya mapoksai guihi lågu America

estague

this.is.what

i

DET.DEF

eksperesiå-ku

eksperesiå

experience

-ku

1S.POSS

ni

which

ma--

ma

PASS

mafañågu

fañågu

born

ya

and

mapoksai

ma

PASS

poksai

raise

guihi

there(distal)

lågu

away

America

this is my experience from birth and being raised over there away in America

10:55

ah siña hu sångan fitme

ah

siña

can

hu

AGR[1S]

sångan

say

fitme

firm

I can firmly say

10:58

na unggan ti parehu

na

LNK

unggan

hunggan

yes

ti

NEG

parehu

same

that yes it is not the same

11:00

i

DET.DEF

the

11:02

i sinente yan i kotturan CHamorun i Katolikun CHamorun Guam

i

DET.DEF

sinente

<in>

NOM

siente

feel

yan

and

i

DET.DEF

kotturan

culture

CHamorun

CHamoru

n

LNK

i

DET.DEF

Katolikun

Katoliko

Catholic

n

LNK

CHamorun

CHamoru

n

LNK

Guam

the feeling and CHamoru culture, the Guam Catholic culture

11:07

kini i otro na klåsen Katoliku gi otro siha na lugåt

kini

than

i

DET.DEF

otro

other

na

LNK

klåsen

klåsi

type

n

LNK

Katoliku

Catholic

gi

LCL

otro

other

siha

PL

na

LNK

lugåt

place

than the other types of Catholics in other lands

11:11

yanggen hu chule' un biha giya Guam, pat un bihu ginen Italia, pat un biha ginen Espåna, pat un biha ginen Englatera

yanggen

if

hu

AGR[1S]

chule'

take

un

one

biha

old.lady

giya

LCL

Guam

pat

of

un

one

bihu

old.lady

ginen

from

Italia

Italy

pat

or

un

one

biha

old.lady

ginen

from

Espåna

Spain

pat

or

un

one

biha

old.lady

ginen

from

Englatera

England

if I take an old lady from Guam, or an old lady from Italy, or an old lady from Spain, or an old lady from England

11:21

ya hu na'danña'

ya

and

hu

AGR[1S]

na'danña'

combine

and put them together

11:23

ti umaya' todu i Katolikun-ñiha

ti

NEG

umaya'

<um>

AGR[nPL]

aya'

align

todu

all

i

DET.DEF

Katolikun-ñiha

Katoliko

Catholic

-ñiha

3PL.POSS

their Catholism will not match

11:26

pues unggan siña hu ålok na

pues

so

unggan

hunggan

yes

siña

can

hu

AGR[1S]

ålok

say

na

LNK

so yes, I can say that

11:29

an måtto hao guini håya giy- gi Mariånas

an

annai

when

måtto

arrive

hao

PRO[2S]

guini

here

håya

inland

giy-

(giya)

LCL

gi

LCL

Mariånas

Marianas

when you come over here in- in the Marianas

11:33

i

DET.DEF

the

11:34

sabot-ña i i Katoliku

sabot-ña

sabot

flavor

-ña

3S.POSS

i

DET.DEF

i

DET.DEF

Katoliku

Catholic

its flavor the Catholic

11:37

ti umaya ya ti parehu

ti

NEG

umaya

<um>

AGR[nPL]

aya

match

ya

and

ti

NEG

parehu

same

it does not match and is not the same

11:40

ah yan otro na lugåt

ah

yan

and

otro

other

na

LNK

lugåt

place

ah with other places

11:42

ah mismo

ah

mismo

personally

ah especially

11:43

este na klåsen Katoliku

este

this

na

LNK

klåsen

klåsi

type

n

LNK

Katoliku

Catholic

this type of Catholicism

11:45

put i hemplo

for example

11:47

ah

11:49

an guaha

an

annai

when

guaha

there.is

when there is

11:51

ah sinenten-ñiha ni' ahm kalan guaha eyi

ah

sinenten-ñiha

<in>

NOM

siente

feel

-ñiha

3S.POSS

ni'

which

ahm

um

kalan

like

guaha

there.is

eyi

that

ah their feeling which is um like there is that

11:57

i ah manganiti pat håfa

i

DET.DEF

ah

manganiti

spirits

pat

or

håfa

what

the spirits or what

11:59

ahm ah

ahm

um

ah

ahm

12:00

håfa ma cho'gue i mambiha?

håfa

what

ma

AGR[3PL]

cho'gue

do

i

DET.DEF

mambiha

man

PL

biha

old.lady

what do the old ladies do?

12:02

ma songge påtma noh i påtma bendita

ma

AGR[3PL]

songge

burn

påtma

palm

noh

TAG

i

DET.DEF

påtma

palm

bendita

blessed

they burn the palm right, the blessed palm leaf

12:07

Dalai!

dalai

really

Really!

12:08

bula lugåt humånao yu' tåtna na hu li'e ennao na klåsen ah hinengge noh i i na i åpu

bula

many

lugåt

place

humånao

<um>

AGR[nPL]

hånao

go

yu'

PRO[1S]

tåtna

never

na

LNK

hu

AGR[1S]

li'e

see

ennao

that

na

LNK

klåsen

klåsi

type

n

LNK

ah

hinengge

<in>

NOM

hongge

believe

noh

TAG

i

DET.DEF

i

DET.DEF

na

LNK

i

DET.DEF

åpu

ash

I have traveled many places and never have I seen that type of belief right, the the ash

12:16

yan i ah

yan

AND

i

DET.DEF

ah

and the

12:18

ah a'a

ah

a'a

yes

ah yes

12:20

"you know" ah ah

"you know"

you know

ah

you know ah ah

12:21

po cho'gue este "right"?

po

para u

FUT.AGR[3S]

cho'gue

do

este

this

"right"?

right

will do this right?

12:23

gi-- siña ha' otro na klåsen Katoliku ma ålok "ai håfa na un sosongge" eyi i sinantusan na na kosas

gi

LCL

siña

can

ha'

only

otro

other

na

LNK

klåsen

klåsi

type

n

LNK

Katoliku

Catholic

ma

AGR[3S]

ålok

say

ai

ay

håfa

what

na

LNK

un

AGR[2S]

sosongge

so~

PROG

songge

burn

eyi

that

i

DET.DEF

sinantusan

<in>

NOM

såntos

saint

an

like

na

LNK

na

LKN

kosas

things

in-- its possible for other types of Catholics to say ay why are you burning that holy material

12:31

kalan un yayamak pat håfa lao ti eyigue i sinenten-ñiha

kalan

like

un

AGR[2S]

yayamak

ya~

PROG

yamak

break

pat

or

håfa

what

lao

but

ti

NEG

eyigue

that.is

i

DET.DEF

sinenten-ñiha

<in>

NOM

siente

feel

-ñiha

3PL.POSS

as if you are breaking or whatever but that is the their feelings

12:36

ya åhe' ti båba lao ti ti parehu

ya

and

åhe'

no

ti

NEG

båba

bad

lao

but

ti

NEG

ti

NEG

parehu

same

and no it isn't bad but it is not not the same

12:39

ah

12:40

este i i i ideha na

este

this

i

DET.DEF

i

DET.DEF

i

DET.DEF

ideha

idea

na

LNK

this idea that

12:45

na siña ya debidi un tayuyuti yon kuentusi siha i manmåtai i matai-mu

na

LNK

siña

can

ya

and

debidi

should

un

AGR[2S]

tayuyuti

tayuyut

tåyuyot

i

APPL

yon

ya

and

un

AGR[2S]

kuentusi

kuentus

speak

i

APPL

siha

PL

i

DET.DEF

manmåtai

man

PL

måtai

dead

i

DET.DEF

matai-mu

matai

dead

-mu

2S.POSS

its possible and requires prayer for and you speak to those that have passed, your passed ones

12:51

hunggan guaha otro Katoliku lokkue' ma chócho'gue ma ma manåyuyut i manKatoliku para yi i manmåtai i i ah

hunggan

yes

guaha

there.is

otro

other

Katoliku

Catholic

lokkue'

also

ma

AGR[3PL]

chócho'gue

cho~

PROG

cho'gue

do

ma

AGR[3PL]

ma

AGR[3PL]

manåyuyut

man

PL

tåyuyut

pray

i

DET.DEF

manKatoliku

man

PL

Katoliku

Catholic

para

for

yi

eyi

those

i

DET.DEF

manmåtai

man

PL

måtai

dead

i

DET.DEF

i

DET.DEF

ah

yes there are other Catholics also that are practicing, they they pray for those that have passed the the ah

12:59

i ante siha gi potgatoriu lao giya Guåhan

i

DET.DEF

ante

ånte

spirit

siha

PL

gi

LCL

potgatoriu

purgatory

lao

but

giya

LCL

Guåhan

those spirits in purgatory but on Guåhan

13:03

ya gi Mariånas

ya

and

gi

LCL

Mariånas

Marianas

and the Marianas

13:05

i para un bisisita todu tiempo para un ah ah

i

DET.DEF

para

for

un

AGR[2S]

bisisita

si~

PROG

bisita

visit

todu

all

tiempo

time

para

for

un

AGR[2S]

ah

for you to visit all the time for you ahah

13:09

un sosongge danges todu ennao siha nai

un

AGR[2S]

sosongge

so~

PROG

songge

burn

danges

candles

todu

all

ennao

that

siha

PL

nai

y'know

you are burning candles, all those things y'know

13:12

unggan ti parehu yan otro na klåsen Katoliku

unggan

hunggan

yes

ti

NEG

parehu

same

yan

and

otro

other

na

LNK

klåsen

klåsi

type

n

LNK

Katoliku

Catholic

yes it is not the same with other types of Cathlocism

13:17

este i ahm

este

this

i

DET.DEF

ahm

um

this ah

13:21

ya bula taiguennao

ya

and

bula

many

taiguennao

that.is.how

and there are many like that

13:22

pues

so

13:24

este i Katoliku giya Guåhan

este

this

i

DET.DEF

Katoliku

Catholic

giya

LCL

Guåhan

this Catholism on Guåhan

13:27

kalan

like

is like

13:28

mismo Katolikun-måmi

mismo

personally

Katolikun-måmi

Katoliku

Catholic

-måmi

1PL.EXCL.POSS

inherently is our Catholicism

13:30

ah

13:32

ya un lili'e yanggen un un taitai nai eyi lepblo siha

ya

un

AGR[2S]

lili'e

li~

PROG

li'e

see

yanggen

if

un

AGR[2S]

un

AGR[2S]

taitai

read

nai

y'know

eyi

that

lepblo

book

siha

PL

and you are seeing if you read y'know those books

13:36

put ah ah

put

about

ah

about ah ah

13:42

ya un li'e

ya

and

un

AGR[2S]

li'e

see

and you see

13:44

pi'ot guaha un un lepblo ni hu hahasso eyi ginen as Fray Juan Pobre

pi'ot

especially

guaha

there.is

un

a

un

a

lepblo

book

ni

which

hu

AGR[1S]

hahasso

ha~

PROG

hasso

remember

eyi

that

ginen

from

as

UNM

Fray Juan Pobre

Friar Poor John

especially, there's a a book that I remember that's from Fray Juan Pobre

13:49

fransiskånu na påle' ya ah ma po'lo giya Luta

fransiskånu

Franciscan

na

LNK

påle'

priest

ya

and

ah

ma

AGR[3PL]

po'lo

put

giya

LCL

Luta

a Franciscan priest and ah they assigned to Luta

13:55

ah sumågan-ñaihon giya Luta ya malago' gui' na pa pau såga ha'

ah

sumågan-ñaihon

<um>

AGR[nPL]

såga

stay

-ñaihon

A.WHILE

giya

LCL

Luta

ya

and

malago'

want

gui'

PRO[3S]

na

LNK

pa

para

to

pau

para u

FUT.AGR[3S]

såga

stay

ha'

only

ah he stayed a whlie on Luta and he just wanted to stay

13:59

åhe' ti humånao para u u misionåriu lao sa' ya-ña nai pau ketungo' put este siha na klåsen taotao

åhe'

no

ti

NEG

humånao

<um>

AGR[nPL]

hånao

go

para u

FUT.AGR[3S]

--u

u

FUT.AGR[3S]

misionåriu

missionary

lao

but

sa'

because

ya-ña

ya-

like

-ña

3S.POSS

nai

y'know

pau

para u

FUT.AGR[3S]

ketungo'

try.to.know

put

about

este

this

siha

PL

na

LNK

klåsen

klåsi

type

n

LNK

taotao

people

no, he didn't go to be a missionary, but because he liked y'know to get to know abou these types of people

14:06

ya ahm

ya

and

ahm

um

and um

14:07

guiya ha ha tuge' påpa' håfa ha li'e gi u- uno pat dos åños

guiya

PRO.EMP[3S]

ha

AGR[3S]

ha

AGR[3S]

tuge'

write

påpa'

down

håfa

what

ha

AGR[3S]

li'e

see

gi

LNK

un--

(uno)

one

uno

one

pat

or

dos

two

åños

years

he was the one, he he wrote down what he saw in a year or two

14:13

pues ha li'e an umakamo', ha li'e ya annai måtai taotao todu ennao siha

pues

so

ha

AGR[3S]

li'e

see

an

annai

when

umakamo',

<um>

AGR[nPL]

akamo'

marry

ha

AGR[3S]

li'e

see

ya

and

annai

when

måtai

dead

taotao

people

todu

all

ennao

that

siha

PL

so he saw when he performed marriages, and he saw when people died, all of that

14:18

ya yanggen un un taitai si Gatsia

ya

and

yanggen

if

un

AGR[2S]

un

AGR[2S]

taitai

read

si

UNM

Gatsia

Garcia

and if you you read Garcia

14:23

ah eyi taotao ni tumuge' put si San Vitores ya kuåntos na s- na fa'na'an kana' ha' siento åños

ah

eyi

that

taotao

person

ni

which

tumuge'

<um>

AGR[nPL]

tuge'

write

put

about

si

UNM

San Vitores

Saint Victor

ya

and

kuåntos

how.long

na

LNK

s--

(error)

na

LNK

fa'na'an

probably

kana' ha'

only.just

siento

hundred

åños

years

the person who wrote about San Vitores and how long, maybe just a hundred years

14:31

distiki si Juan Pobre yan si yan si Gåtsia

distiki

since

si

UNM

Juan Pobre

yan

and

si

LNK

yan

and

si

UNM

Gåtsia

Garcia

since Juan Pobre and and Garcia

14:34

lao yanggen un taitai ya un li'e

lao

but

yanggen

if

un

AGR[2S]

taitai

read

ya

and

un

AGR[2S]

li'e

see

but if you read and you see

14:37

un li'e na bula eyi i kostumbren

un

AGR[2S]

li'e

see

na

LNK

bula

much

eyi

that

i

DET.DEF

kostumbren

kostumbre

custom

n

LNK

you see a lot of customs

14:41

ah mismo taotao håya

ah

mismo

same

taotao

person

håya

indigenous

inland

ah same indigenous people

14:43

eyi mismo taotao mo'na

eyi

that

mismo

same

taotao mo'na

ancestors

those same ancestors

14:45

bula eyu na kostumbre

bula

many

eyu

that

na

LNK

kostumbre

custom

there are many of those customs

14:47

ma na'hålom ha' gi Katoliku

ma

AGR[3PL]

na'hålom

na'

CAUS

hålom

in

ha'

just

gi

LNK

Katoliku

Catholic

they just inserted [the beliefs] into Catholicism

14:50

lao ma na'danña' yan yan ah eyi i idehan Yu'os idehan såntos todu ennao siha

lao

but

ma

AGR[3PL]

mana'danña'

na'

CAUS

danña'

combine

yan

and

yan

and

ah

eyi

that

i

DET.DEF

idehan

ideha

idea

n

LNK

Yu'os

God

idehan

ideha

idea

n

LNK

såntos

saints

todu

all

ennao

that

siha

PL

but they put it together and and ah that, the idea of God, the idea of saints, all that

14:57

lao i parehu ha'

lao

but

i

DET.DEF

parehu

same

ha'

just

but it's just the same

14:59

ilek-ña si Juan Pobre na man mangåkati siha i i famalao'an annai ha li'e na guaha måtai

ilek-ña

ilek

say

-ña

3S.POSS

si

UNM

Juan Pobre

na

LNK

manmangåkati

man

PL

man

ANTIP

kå~

PROG

kåti

wail

siha

PL

i

DET.DEF

i

DET.DEF

famalao'an

women

annai

when

ha

AGR[3S]

li'e

see

na

LNK

guaha

there.is

måtai

dead

Juan Pobre said when he saw there was someone who died, the the women were wailing

15:06

ya para kuåntos dihas ma chocho'gue ya kalan ma taitatayi

ya

and

para

for

kuåntos

how.many

dihas

days

ma

AGR[3PL]

chocho'gue

cho~

PROG

cho'gue

do

ya

and

kalan

like

ma

AGR[3PL]

taitatayi

~tai

PROG

taitai

pray

i

APPL

and for how many days they were doing that and it was like they were praying

15:11

ma tångse

ma

AGR[3PL]

tångse

weep

they wept

15:12

a'a todu ha' nai

a'a

yes

todu ha'

all.that

nai

y'know

yes, all of that, y'know

15:14

mmm

mm

15:14

parehu ha' siña

parehu

same

ha'

just

siña

can

just the same, it's possible

15:15

siña hu s-- hu konne' hao agupa' para ah Sinahånña pat ah Hågat ya un li'e' kumu guaha måtai

siña

can

hu

AGR[1S]

s--

(siña)

can

hu

AGR[1S]

konne'

take

hao

PRO[2S]

agupa'

tomorrow

para

to

ah

Sinahånña

pat

or

ah

Hågat

ya

and

un

AGR[2S]

li'e'

see

kumu

if

guaha

there.is

måtai

death

I can-- I can take you tomorrow to uh Sinahånña or ah Hågat and you'll see if someone has died

15:22

parehu ha' nai

parehu

same

ha'

just

nai

y'know

It's just the same, y'know

15:23

pues

so

15:24

guaha taotao i i gi para siha

guaha

there.is

taotao

people

i

DET.DEF

i

DET.DEF

gi

LCL

para

to

siha

PL

there are people, for them

15:28

annai annai måtto este i relihon

annai

when

annai

when

måtto

came

este

this

i

DET.DEF

relihon

religion

when when this religion arrived

15:32

ah yinamak todu i kot- i kotturan CHamoru lao

ah

yinamak

<in>

PASS

yamak

broke

todu

all

i

DET.DEF

kot-

(kottura)

culture

i

DET.DEF

kotturan

kottura

culture

n

LNK

CHamoru

lao

but

ah it broke all the cu-- the CHamoru culture

15:36

para guåhu

para

for

guåhu

PRO.EMP[1S]

for me

15:37

ni' hu li'e' todu na diferentes na klåsen Katoliku gi gi otro siha na tåno'

ni'

which

hu

AGR[1S]

li'e'

see

todu

all

na

LNK

diferentes

different

na

LNK

klåsen

klåsi

type

n

LNK

Katoliku

Catholic

gi

LCL

gi

LCL

otro

other

siha

PL

na

LNK

tåno'

land

which I see all different types of Catholics in in other lands

15:44

hu li'e' ha' na åhe' ti ti ti yinamak i kostumbren-måmi

hu

AGR[1S]

li'e'

see

ha'

just

na

LNK

åhe'

no

ti

NEG

ti

NEG

ti

NEG

yinamak

<in>

NOM

yamak

break

i

DET.DEF

kostumbren-måmi

kostumbre

custom

-måmi

1PL.EXCL.POSS

I just see that it isn't isn't isn't-- our culture isn't broken

15:49

na ma na'chetton ha' i dos

na

LNK

ma

AGR[3PL]

mana'chetton

na'

CAUS

chetton

stick

ha'

just

i

DET.DEF

dos

two

They just combined the two

15:52

ya ah ahm ma båtte todu i i kostumbren-måmi yan este i i i tiningo' put ah put Yu'os lao gagaige ha' i sinente i i sabot

ya

and

ah

ahm

um

ma

AGR[3S]

båtte

mix

todu

all

i

DET.DEF

i

DET.DEF

kostumbren-måmi

kostumbre

beliefs

-måmi

1PL.EXCL.POSS

yan

and

este

this

i

DET.DEF

i

DET.DEF

i

DET.DEF

tiningo'

<in>

NOM

tungo'

know

put

about

ah

put

about

Yu'os

God

lao

but

gagaige

ga~

PROG

gaige

be.present

ha'

just

i

DET.DEF

sinente

<in>

NOM

siente

feel

i

DET.DEF

i

DET.DEF

sabot

flavor

and uh uh they mixed together all our our beliefs and this the the the knowledge about uh about God, but the feelings, the the flavor

16:08

i fåtna

i

DET.DEF

fåtna

core

the heart of it

16:09

ha'a

yes

16:10

ah ah i i iyon CHamorun ya un li'e' ha'

ah

i

DET.DEF

i

DEF.DEF

iyon

own

CHamorun

CHamoru

n

LNK

ya

and

un

AGR[2S]

li'e'

see

ha'

just

ah ah the it belongs to the CHamoru and you just see

16:14

an humånao hao para otro lugåt na ti parehu ti umaya yan otro siha pues

an

annai

when

humånao

<um>

AGR[nPL]

hånao

go

hao

PRO[2S]

para

to

otro

other

lugåt

place

na

LNK

ti

NEG

parehu

same

ti

NEG

umaya

<um>

AGR[nPL]

aya

align

yan

and

otro

other

siha

PL

pues

so

when you go to another place, it's not the same, it doesn't align with others, so

16:19

mismo iyo-ta ennao

mismo

actually

iyo-ta

iyo-

possession

-ta

1PL.INCL.POSS

ennao

that

actually that is ours

16:22

okay

16:24

pues ahm

pues

so

ahm

ahh

so ahh

16:26

esta kumuentos didide' nai na

esta

already

kumuentos

<um>

AGR[nPL]

kuentos

talk

didide'

little

nai

y'know

na

LNK

you aready talked a little, y'know, about

16:29

åhe' ti ma na'sahnge ti ma yamak na

åhe'

not

ti

NEG

ma

AGR[3PL]

na'sahnge

na'

CAUS

sahnge

separated

ti

NEG

ma

AGR[3PL]

yamak

break

na

LNK

no, they didn't separate it, they didn't break it

16:30

åhe'

no

16:32

ma na'chetton ma na'danña'

ma

AGR[3PL]

na'chetton

na'

CAUS

chetton

stick.with

ma

AGR[3PL]

na'danña'

na'

CAUS

danña'

combine

they stuck it together, they combined it

16:33

hunggan

yes

16:38

muna' ti sesen parehu i Katolikun i CHamoru yan Katolikun i otro na lugåt na taotågue

muna'

CAUS

ti

NEG

sesen

se~

PROG

sen

very

parehu

same

i

DET.DEF

Katolikun

Katoliku

Catholic

n

LNK

i

DET.DEF

CHamoru

yan

and

Katolikun

Katoliku

Catholic

n

LNK

i

DET.DEF

otro

other

na

LNK

lugåt

place

na

LNK

taotågue

people

made it not exactly the same, the CHamoru Catholics and Catholics from other places

16:45

maolek maolek

maolek

good

maolek

good

good good

16:46

ah kao guaha håftaimanu mohon inago'-ñiñiha annai sigi annai sigi ha' mo'na

ah

kao

YNQ

guaha

there.is

håftaimanu

how

mohon

might

inago'-ñiñiha

<in>

PASS

ago'

change

-ñiha

3PL.POSS

~ñi

PROG

annai

when

sigi

go.on

annai

when

sigi

go.on

ha'

just

mo'na

forward

ah, are there, how might have they changed when they continued, when they continued forward?

16:53

taiguihi put i hemplo

taiguihi

like

put i hemplo

for example

like, for example

16:54

kao ti parehu

kao

YNQ

ti

NEG

parehu

same

Was it different?

16:56

"or" kao pat kao guaha tinilaika

"or"

or

kao

YNQ

pat

or

kao

YNQ

guaha

there.is

tinilaika

<in>

NOM

tulaika

change

or, or were there changes?

16:59

i Katolikun

i

the

Katolikun

Katoliku

Catholic

n

LNK

the Catholic

17:01

pat i

pat

or

i

DET.DEF

or the

17:03

i fina'ti-- fina'tinas-ñiha i Katolikun gi tiempon i mañaina-ta taiguihi i i

i

DET.DEF

fina'ti--

<in>

NOM

(fa'tinas)

make

fina'tinas-ñiha

<in>

NOM

fa'tinas

make

-ñiha

3PL.POSS

i

DET.DEF

Katolikun

Katoliku

Catholic

n

LNK

gi

LCL

tiempon

tiempo

time

n

LNK

i

DET.DEF

mañaina-ta

man

PL

saina

elder

-ta

1PL.INCL.POSS

taiguihi

like

i

DET.DEF

i

DET.DEF

the Catholic crea-- their creations, the Catholics in our ancestors' time

17:10

i mambiha yan i mambihu

i

DET.DEF

mambiha

man

PL

biha

old.lady

yan

and

i

DET.DEF

mambihu

man

PL

bihu

old.man

the old women and the old men

17:12

yan på'go kao guaha tinilaika didide'

yan

and

på'go

now

kao

YNQ

guaha

there.is

tinilaika

<in>

NOM

tulaika

change

didide'

little

and now has it changed a little?

17:14

hunggan

yes

17:15

ahm

um

17:17

yas "you know" man-- man-- ah manhoben hit

yas

(error)

"you know"

you know

man--

man

PL

man--

man

PL

ah

manhoben

man

PL

hoben

young

hit

PRO[1PL.INCL]

y-- you know we we ah we are young

17:22

trabiha ån- you know ko-- makom-- komu makompåra yan siha ya

trabiha

not.yet

ån-

(error)

"you know"

you know

ko-

(komu)

if

makom-

(makompara)

(PASS.compare)

komu

if

makompåra

ma

PASS

kompåra

compare

yan

and

siha

PRO[3PL]

ya

and

not yet, a-- you know if if they are compared with them and

17:26

hunggan bula

hunggan

yes

bula

many

yes many

17:29

fine'nana gi gima' Yu'os

fine'nana

<in>

NOM

fo'na

first

~na

EMPH

gi

LCL

gima' Yu'os

guma' Yu'os

church

house of God

the first and foremost in the church

17:31

gi tiempon-ñiha

gi

LCL

tiempon-ñiha

tiempo

time

-ñiha

3PL.POSS

in their time

17:33

ah fino' ah Latin

ah

fino'

language

ah

Latin

ah language ah Latin

17:35

todu i misa siha

todu

all

i

DET.DEF

misa

mass

siha

PL

all the masses

17:38

pues yanggen ti un komprende nai håfa ilelek-ña si påle'

pues

so

yanggen

if

ti

NEG

un

AGR[2S]

komprende

understand

nai

y'know

håfa

what

ilelek-ña

le~

PROG

ilek

say

-ña

3S.POSS

si

UNM

påle'

priest

so if you don't understand, y'know, what the priest is saying

17:42

pues eyi i

pues

then

eyi

that

i

DET.DEF

then that the

17:45

i kostumbre siha

i

the

kostumbre

belief

siha

PL

the beliefs

17:53

téniki man- eyigue' para un ah ah

téniki

going.to

from Sp: "tiene que", have to

man-

PL

eyigue'

that.is

para un

FUT.AGR[2S]

ah

they will, that is, you will ah ah

17:57

i i dibotu gaige guennao

i

DET.DEF

i

DET.DEF

dibotu

devote

gaige

be.present

guennao

that.is.how

the the devotion is there

17:58

noh sa'

noh

TAG

sa'

because

right?, because

18:00

ti un gof komprende

ti

NEG

un

AGR[2S]

gof

very

komprende

understand

you don't really understand

18:05

ah kalan misteriu nai i misa

ah

kalan

like

misteriu

mystery

nai

y'know

i

DET.DEF

misa

mass

ah it's like mass is a mystery

18:07

lao ahm

lao

but

ahm

um

but um

18:10

på'go

now

18:13

ma tulaika todu sa'

ma

AGR[3PL]

tulaika

change

todu

all

sa'

because

they changed everything because

18:16

gi mit gi fana'an gi 1960s

gi

LCL

mit

thousand

gi

LCL

fana'an

maybe

gi

LCL

1960s

in 19... maybe 1960s

18:20

Alarm in background

18:20

guaha eyi ni ma a'agang

guaha

there.is

eyi

that

ni

which

ma

AGR[3PL]

a'agang

a~

PROG

agang

call

they call that

18:23

ah dispensa siñot

ah

dispensa

sorry

siñot

sir

ah, excuse me sir

18:26

kalan måtai-ñaihon i power guini ya lumåla' ta'lo ya kalan guaha gumigigek yan gumågagak

kalan

like

måtai-ñaihon

måtai

dead

-ñaihon

A.WHILE

i

DET.DEF

"power"

power

guini

here

ya

and

lumåla'

<um>

AGR[nPL]

låla'

alive

ta'lo

again

ya

and

kalan

like

guaha

there.is

gumigigek

<um>

AGR[nPL]

gi~

PROG

gigek

scream

yan

and

gumågagak

<um>

AGR[nPL]

gå~

PROG

gågak

yelling/making.lots.of.noise/alarming

it's like the power died out for a little while here and it turned on again and it's like its siren is going off and going crazy

18:28

oh

18:32

ha'a

yeah

18:33

hinasso-ku na

hinasso-ku

<in>

NOM

hasso

remember

-ku

1S.POSS

na

LNK

I thought

18:34

fina'alarm hekkua'

fina'alarm

<in>

NOM

fa'

IMP.CAUS

"alarm"

alarm

hekkua'

I dunno

what caused it to alarm, I dunno

18:38

ma na'hålom i "fire alarm" ya esta mamaipe guini hålom ya hinasso-ku na

ma

AGR[3PL]

na'hålom

na'

CAUS

hålom

enter

i

DET.DEF

"fire alarm"

fire alarm

ya

and

esta

already

mamaipe

ma~

PROG

maipe

hot

guini

here

hålamo

hålom

inside

ya

and

hinasso-ku

<in>

NOM

hasso

think

-ku

1S.POSS

na

LNK

they entered the fire alarm and it's already hot in here and I think that

18:43

ai lao

ai

ay

lao

but

ay, but

18:45

"okay, a re-- ah, redo that-- we'll do that whole question"

Interview with Siñot Adrian Cruz

Interviewer: Siñot Jeremy Cepeda